Operation Recovery

[boeingdriver213]

Bottom line is, if EVERYONE had done their jobs last weekend, none of these posts would have been written. To all the U employees who did their jobs, thanks. To those who chose to call off sick, no show, or create chaos with the bags last weekend, I hope you get what you truly deserve........

 

[supercruiser]

It was US Airways ALPA unit that prevents anyone from working to get their pilots license while they are employed at US Airways from getting a pilots job..

[post="234445"][/post]​

There is nothing in the US Airways pilot contract that says anything about who is hired, and what the hiring criteria is, or prevents anyone from being hired as a pilot. It's not clear what you are saying, but are you really that delusional that if you're a baggage handler or mechanic who goes out and gets his pilot's license on the side, then that person should then be qualified to be hired as a US Airways pilot, or that ALPA should somehow negotiate something like that into their contract?

Look at the experience level of any pilot hired at any large airline. Every new hire pilot no matter what his background, has a college degree, and years of full time flight experience with several thousand hours, whether military or civilian as a corporate or commuter pilot. Where would you possibly get that kind of experience and maintain your currency, if you are working at any other job within the company at the same time? Do you think that US Airways or any airline should have some type of special program to take someone with no flight experience who gets his pilots license on the side while he is employed in some other department, and let them crossover as a pilot?

Thank god you are no longer working for US Airways as I would be afraid to get on an airplane worked on by you, with the ignorance that you show. There is a heck of a lot of difference between crossing over from a baggage handler or flight attendant to a dispatcher or to load control after completing a long training program, than getting your pilots license on the side, and expecting to crossover to being a pilot. That will never happen at this or any other airline. It's a waste of energy to type a response to someone like you who is still justa****.

supercruiser

 

[MarkMyWords]

Just a little peak at todays operation.....

With just over 600 flights completed here are the preliminary stats for mainline:

Sked / 0.......Dept 66% Arr 78%
Sked / 5.......Dept 83% Arr 86%
Sked / 14.....Dept 94% Arr 93%

Zero cancellations

Thanks to everyone who came to work today and made these numbers possible.

 

[PITbull]

Bottom line is, if EVERYONE had done their jobs last weekend, none of these posts would have been written. To all the U employees who did their jobs, thanks. To those who chose to call off sick, no show, or create chaos with the bags last weekend, I hope you get what you truly deserve........

[post="234521"][/post]​

B Driver,

BS, pal.

The operation in PHL was normally not staffed correctly. Compalints were for months.

Get your facts straight before you spout off.

PIT was not used as a HUB.
Last year it was, and handled much of the traffic for the holidays with connections and bag transfers.

WE ARE STILL A HUB AND SPOKE OPERATION; But now we transfer pax and bags out of two hubs, and MOSTLY PHL. NO CANCELLATIONS LAST YEAR BECAUSE PIT WAS IN THE EQUATION HELPING WITH THE TRAFFIC.

tHESE ARE THE REAL ISSUES. Not what meets the naked eye. Sometimes, if you thoroughly investigate, comparing last year and this year...you will FIND THE NEEDLE IN THE HAY STACK!

There lies the problem.

You notice managment needed volunteers to handle the traffic this weekend. NOt the sick calls, STAFFING THIS HUB IS THE ISSUE TO HANDLE THE VOLUME!

Markmywords,

Don't sit here and tell me your same garbage about sick calls. Managment failed to plan!!!!!!!!

Those who fail to plan; plan on failing

 

[skyflyr69]

You have to keep something in perspective here..

If the company told the ALPA unit tomorrow to clean the planes, do the daily check, dump the lavs, load the bags, unload the bags, check in the passengers, take the reservations, clean the cockpit windows, fuel the tugs and ground equipment and do it with a smile on your face there is not one Pilot in the entire company that would say no.. Not one.. They would be lined up..



and a good thing to. just like the great pilots at SOUTHWEST who do more than fly the plane.

 

[skyflyr69]

workingqd says: "Maybe I' ll come up and fly the next leg for you. "


yeah right, maybe after 4 yrs of college 2-5 years at a commuter. then the interview process.
ain't going to happen qd. But, YOU are replacable.
i say hoooahhhhh!!!!!!! to the usairways pilots and nuts to you and your ilk.


:angry:

 

[Cfm56]

Many won't like to hear this, but the pilots have more to lose than any other work group. That is why there is quite a deal of incentive for them to want to help make the airline run well by helping load the bags, etc. in the present situation at U.

Mechanics, F/A's, rampers, and other work groups are more willing to push things to the limit because they have less to lose.

Why do pilots have more to lose you ask? Because it is far easier for a mechanic to find work at a car dealer or contract maintanence place and make a high degree of the % of pay where he left. Same principle for F/A's, rampers, and other work groups. A ramper will make 75 to 95% of what earming at U by loading trucks at a warehouse or helping people find nails in Home Depot. A pilot takes a much more severe drop in pay to start all over if he leaves the left seat of an airbus or 757 and starts all over in the right seat of an RJ and it will take him FAR longer to climb up to the pay rate that he left his failing relative other workers if they stay in the same field of work and start all over. A pilot will likely start over at 35% of what he used to earn, if that. And most pilots have little experience doing any other kind of work in any other field, and if they did find any work outside of being an airline pilot, it would pay a small % of what they were making and they'd probably never come close to matching what they use to make as a mechanice or cleaner or F/A will.

Like this statement or not, relative getting back on their feet career and pay wise, it's just not the same for an airline pilot as it is for others to start all over or go somewere else. It's a fact.

 

[aafsc]

workingqd says: "Maybe I' ll come up and fly the next leg for you. "
yeah right, maybe after 4 yrs of college 2-5 years at a commuter. then the interview process.
ain't going to happen qd. But, YOU are replacable.
i say hoooahhhhh!!!!!!! to the usairways pilots and nuts to you and your ilk.
:angry:

[post="234573"][/post]​

Pilots ARE replaceable. What do you think the RJs are for?

 

[ItsJustAJob]

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[eolesen]

Justamechanic's inane comment about other workgroups pitching in sums up why many of the major airlines are having such problems...

The employees have decided that protecting their turf is more important than serving customers.

It doesn't have to be that way.

 

[Rico]

It doesn't have to be that way.

Well said.
.

 

[shinbal]

To all the Scabs that loaded bags during Christmas, you should have stayed in the cockpit. All you did was show Management that you can fly and load airplanes. That is what will happen next. Maybe I' ll come up and fly the next leg for you. This airline can not run without each of us. Don't cross the line .... Please....We are all fighting for our jobs

[post="234432"][/post]​

Sooooooooooooooo.............can the lowly passenger assume, from the word "scab" being used above, that the PHL Christmas debacle WAS indeed a job action of some sort? The use of the word scab has always, to my knowledge, been used to describe someone who crossed a picket line. And yet, so much puff has come out in the press over the last week from the leadership saying, "no, it wasn't a job action"---management just wasn't up to snuff on staffing. from workngd's post. it Sounds to me that SOMEONE in the union..maybe even on PHL's front lines..believes it was.

Fighting for your jobs? Start fighting for your customers. This airline won't run without a revenue stream.

 

[700UW]

Etymology: Middle English, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Swedish skabbr scab; akin to Old English sceabb scab, Latin scabere to scratch —more at SHAVE
Date: 13th century
1 : scabies of domestic animals
2 : a crust of hardened blood and serum over a wound
3 a : a contemptible person b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms
4 : any of various bacterial or fungus diseases of plants characterized by crustaceous spots; also : one of the spots

The Scab
"After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, he had some awful substance left with which he made a scab."

"A scab is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a water brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles."

"When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out."

"No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with. Judas was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself." A scab has not.

"Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commision in the british army." The scab sells his birthright, country, his wife, his children and his fellowmen for an unfulfilled promise from his employer.

Esau was a traitor to himself; Judas was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country; a scab is a traitor to his God, his country, his family and his class."

Author --- Jack London (1876-1916)

 

[MCI transplant]

There is nothing in the US Airways pilot contract that says anything about who is hired, and what the hiring criteria is, or prevents anyone from being hired as a pilot. It's not clear what you are saying, but are you really that delusional that if you're a baggage handler or mechanic who goes out and gets his pilot's license on the side, then that person should then be qualified to be hired as a US Airways pilot, or that ALPA should somehow negotiate something like that into their contract?

Look at the experience level of any pilot hired at any large airline. Every new hire pilot no matter what his background, has a college degree, and years of full time flight experience with several thousand hours, whether military or civilian as a corporate or commuter pilot. Where would you possibly get that kind of experience and maintain your currency, if you are working at any other job within the company at the same time? Do you think that US Airways or any airline should have some type of special program to take someone with no flight experience who gets his pilots license on the side while he is employed in some other department, and let them crossover as a pilot?

Thank god you are no longer working for US Airways as I would be afraid to get on an airplane worked on by you, with the ignorance that you show. There is a heck of a lot of difference between crossing over from a baggage handler or flight attendant to a dispatcher or to load control after completing a long training program, than getting your pilots license on the side, and expecting to crossover to being a pilot. That will never happen at this or any other airline. It's a waste of energy to type a response to someone like you who is still justa****.

supercruiser

[post="234539"][/post]​

<_< Just one question Captain? Or, maybe two, or three! When you put the Aircraft in "AUTO-PILOT", who is flying the plane? Would you believe Maintanence? And how often do you do that??