Northwest-Delta: We Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Pilots

[deltawatch]

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/03/28/nort...og?mod=yahoo_hs

 

[North by Northwest]

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/03/28/nort...og?mod=yahoo_hs

They don't need no stinkin WW III either. (and THAT... is surely what they will get!)

 

[BABABOOY]

Very interesting that it is North West that is approaching Delta.

 

[DAL Mech]

Very interesting that it is North West that is approaching Delta.

Yeah, but they dont need DAL.

 

[deltawatch]

AA, US or CO would hook up with NW in a minute. NW pilots might get a better deal with one of them.

 

[North by Northwest]

Yeah, but they dont need DAL.

Well...you're right about that. Now all you have to do is figure out why it's only a few individuals from NW pushing it (it might take you a while)

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Very interesting that it is North West that is approaching Delta.

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BABABOOY,

YOU are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ....... 100%.

The truth MUST be told,..................NO ONE(myself included) can Blame DL for this "chapter"

 

[Kev3188]

From the article:


"The group that has the most to gain from the merger is the [Northwest] pilots and all [Northwest] employees who are paid less than the [Delta] employees and will get an immediate bump up in wages"


My question is: What raise?! Compared to my DL counterparts on the ramp, I pay hundreds (if not thousands) less for medical/dental, have more sick time, and 2 weeks more vacation...

I should flush all of that away for a couple of cents per hour?! No thanks!

Keep DL your DL!

 

[tech2101]

From the article:


"The group that has the most to gain from the merger is the [Northwest] pilots and all [Northwest] employees who are paid less than the [Delta] employees and will get an immediate bump up in wages"


My question is: What raise?! Compared to my DL counterparts on the ramp, I pay hundreds (if not thousands) less for medical/dental, have more sick time, and 2 weeks more vacation...

I should flush all of that away for a couple of cents per hour?! No thanks!

Keep DL your DL!

When this merger happens, all the NWA stations outside DTW/MSP will be Delta Global Services (DGS):

Locations

 

[luv2fly]

From the article:


"The group that has the most to gain from the merger is the [Northwest] pilots and all [Northwest] employees who are paid less than the [Delta] employees and will get an immediate bump up in wages"


My question is: What raise?! Compared to my DL counterparts on the ramp, I pay hundreds (if not thousands) less for medical/dental, have more sick time, and 2 weeks more vacation...

Probably referring to the pilots. NW would have to be brought up 5-10% to achieve parity with DL pilots. In addition they would receive an equity stake with annual raises of 7%.

 

[LukeAisleWalker]

Probably referring to the pilots. NW would have to be brought up 5-10% to achieve parity with DL pilots. In addition they would receive an equity stake with annual raises of 7%.

Not anymore. From what these articles are saying: You kids couldn't figure out how to play in the sandbox with the promise of a new set of toys so now you're gonna have to learn how to play in the sandbox with......no toys at all. :-O

 

[deltawatch]

When this merger happens, all the NWA stations outside DTW/MSP will be Delta Global Services (DGS):

Locations

Yepper ..... if this merger goes through NW rampers can kiss their careers good by.

 

[luv2fly]

Not anymore. From what these articles are saying: You kids couldn't figure out how to play in the sandbox with the promise of a new set of toys so now you're gonna have to learn how to play in the sandbox with......no toys at all. :-O

Well, actually, the 5-10% represents nothing more than parity. You are correct the rest goes away without the consent of the pilots, however Steenland obviously knows going against the pilots is not really advisable. Otherwise, the original offer would never have been made.
If you want to dismiss the importance of seniority by comparing it to toys in a sandbox, that is your right. I prefer not to trivialize it with such simple minded statements.

 

[Kev3188]

Probably referring to the pilots. NW would have to be brought up 5-10% to achieve parity with DL pilots. In addition they would receive an equity stake with annual raises of 7%.

Probably, but I was going with the part that said "all Northwest employees."

 

[LukeAisleWalker]

Well, actually, the 5-10% represents nothing more than parity. You are correct the rest goes away without the consent of the pilots, however Steenland obviously knows going against the pilots is not really advisable. Otherwise, the original offer would never have been made.
If you want to dismiss the importance of seniority by comparing it to toys in a sandbox, that is your right. I prefer not to trivialize it with such simple minded statements.

I don't trivialize it, Luv. If these news reports are to be believed, that seems to be a reflection of the attitude of the powers-that-be.
For someone so caught up in seniority and pilots rights, why do you basically comb through the other threads and cast shadows (if not outright opposition) to DL FAs unionizing?? You're not M.Stark are you? I know he wasn't for DL FAs unionizing the last time. Did that have anything to do with maybe his stock falling if the vote went through?