No to the Alliance!

[scorpion 2]

 
Where did you here that?  Cause they are signing cards.

Cool. Ex AMFA guy that had enough of the twu and jumped ship a long time ago.  

 

[Zom JFK]

I will respond, but first, do you work for AA, if so what title groupe. 

I am in the title three groupe.

 

[mike33]

Mike not sure what your $9.00 buy out means but is it $9.00 per hour? In Fleet we still get $25.00 "Per Day" for our sick time buyout.

The $9 Hr buyout is still in our contract. That will hopefully be changed to ones Pay Rate. That needs to be addressed

 

[bob@las-AA]

 

You are a CC and was hired in 84, that is my guess, this explains your contempt towards anyone that is not aligned with your way of thinking,or better yet the Union way of thinking.
I have said in the past, I do not have, or will have a need of representation in the foreseeable future. Why?
Because I respect the position the management and CSM hold and conduct myself accordingly.
I was raised with a rare skillset that is lacking in 80% employed at AA.
It is called honor, and integrity. 
I report to my job assignment with only one thing in mind, what can I do to justify American paying my today.
The answer to that is simple, just follow the rules American gave us. 
I have no sympathy for the money, vacation, double time, and the endless fountain of cash and overtime, that is now gone.
Instead, as a whole thinks of new ways to cheat the system, because the got to get back what they took from us. If anyone claiming to be in the poor house because of the concessions of 2003, then they just failed to adjust their standard of living.
If economic condition indicate that a business is on the verge of insolvency, how ya going to call?
Its the employees because that is the biggest controllable expenditure a company has.  

 

[WeAAsles]

You are a CC and was hired in 84, that is my guess, this explains your contempt towards anyone that is not aligned with your way of thinking,or better yet the Union way of thinking.
I have said in the past, I do not have, or will have a need of representation in the foreseeable future. Why?
Because I respect the position the management and CSM hold and conduct myself accordingly.
I was raised with a rare skillset that is lacking in 80% employed at AA.
It is called honor, and integrity. 
I report to my job assignment with only one thing in mind, what can I do to justify American paying my today.
The answer to that is simple, just follow the rules American gave us. 
I have no sympathy for the money, vacation, double time, and the endless fountain of cash and overtime, that is now gone.
Instead, as a whole thinks of new ways to cheat the system, because the got to get back what they took from us. If anyone claiming to be in the poor house because of the concessions of 2003, then they just failed to adjust their standard of living.
If economic condition indicate that a business is on the verge of insolvency, how ya going to call?
Its the employees because that is the biggest controllable expenditure a company has.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2l4bz1FT8U

 

[Kev3188]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying here but how can a union get anything for it's members when most of them side with management? The greatest trick the super rich ever pulled off in this country is convincing working people that they are the problem. (although fooling Bob@las probably wasn't that hard)

Truth!

I'll also submit the continued citing of articles from Peter List's Labor Union report as prime facie evidence. He's making wheelbarrows full of cash convincing people like us to advocate against our own best interests...

 

[bob@las-AA]

 

I offer you this.
 
http://www.hulu.com/watch/455369

 

[Zom JFK]

You are a CC and was hired in 84, that is my guess, this explains your contempt towards anyone that is not aligned with your way of thinking,or better yet the Union way of thinking.
I have said in the past, I do not have, or will have a need of representation in the foreseeable future. Why?
Because I respect the position the management and CSM hold and conduct myself accordingly.
I was raised with a rare skillset that is lacking in 80% employed at AA.
It is called honor, and integrity. 
I report to my job assignment with only one thing in mind, what can I do to justify American paying my today.
The answer to that is simple, just follow the rules American gave us. 
I have no sympathy for the money, vacation, double time, and the endless fountain of cash and overtime, that is now gone.
Instead, as a whole thinks of new ways to cheat the system, because the got to get back what they took from us. If anyone claiming to be in the poor house because of the concessions of 2003, then they just failed to adjust their standard of living.
If economic condition indicate that a business is on the verge of insolvency, how ya going to call?
Its the employees because that is the biggest controllable expenditure a company has.  

Our ranks are filled with company men like this. Don't worry Bob you will have many more opportunities to give back to AA.

 

[WeAAsles]

I offer you this.
 
http://www.hulu.com/watch/455369

I've seen it. But your comment about yourself was overly self grandiose. It implies that 80% of the people that I work with are lazy and spoiled and have no appreciation for an honest days work. I am 100% positive that you are dead wrong. Every station has it's bad apples but that group from my experience at best doesn't even come close to 5% of the total.

You may want to learn or offer up a little more humility in your life?

Would you suggest that the hero's of American Dream should have stayed at the factory until they were all the way down to that $6.50 per hour given to the subcontractors? My cousin Sean in Maine worked for Hostess BTW. Yes he WAS with the Bakers Union.
 
What hits home most powerfully in ''American Dream'' is the film maker's sense of how deep this damage ultimately runs. When the defeated strikers try to claim victory (Ray Rogers, the charismatic labor organizer, tries to say that these events ''cannot be considered anything but positive''), or when a woman tearfully packing her belongings insists, ''We're not leaving, we're just taking our fight elsewhere,'' it's clear how crushing the full weight of this debacle will be.
Ms. Kopple's stirring, forthright film captures an American town, the strength of its traditions and the deep and permanent ways in which those traditions can be destroyed. Her work is as important as it is good.

http://www.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9C0CE5D71E3CF935A35753C1A966958260

 

 

[WeAAsles]

Our ranks are filled with company men like this. Don't worry Bob you will have many more opportunities to give back to AA.

I'm not a fan of Company men but I'm also not a fan of militant radicals either. To me it's all about finding the right balance.

 

[Buck]

Can we be clear on a couple of things? 
 
Those of us working in the airline industry, are not subject to the Right To Work. 
 
and many of us, especially at Tulsa, work under a TWU "Closed Shop".

 

[Buck]

I'm not a fan of Company men but I'm also not a fan of militant radicals either. To me it's all about finding the right balance.

Does that include militant radical unionists also?

 

[WeAAsles]

Does that include militant radical unionists also?

I'd prefer smart tactical Unionists. Maybe we will have the need sooner rather than later for anarchy in the movement? Not quite sure yet?

 

[Zom JFK]

I'm not a fan of Company men but I'm also not a fan of militant radicals either. To me it's all about finding the right balance.

Why is it whenever anyone wants to stand up to the company it makes them a "militant radical"? As if not giving in to their every demand will sink the place.

 

[WeAAsles]

Why is it whenever anyone wants to stand up to the company it makes them a "militant radical"? As if not giving in to their every demand will sink the place.

If you're making up your own interpretation of what I said, you're wrong. I probably stand up to the company far more than most of you guys do. Especially moronic managers and moronic mandates. (Rules)