Nmb Ruling

[twuer]

Here's some official information. . .

The number stands at 18,661 eligible voters in the craft and class at AA as determined by the NMB. They chose NOT to schedule an election!!!! AMFA will have 2 weeks to appeal this number so currently only amfa and the NMB know if there is enough signed authorization cards. My bet is they don't have enough. My math says they need 9331 signed cards. Do they have that many??? I guess we will find out!!

I believe amfa has lost this one!!!!!

 

[NMB]

Director Update - 06-16-04 - Wednesday, June 16, 2004 at 16:48
Late this afternoon, we received a decision from NMB Investigator Eileen M. Hennessey regarding NMB Case No. R-6998. Based upon her rulings, the total number of Potential Eligible Voters is 18,661.



Any appeals of these rulings must be filed with the National Mediation Board by 4:00 p.m. ET on Wednesday, June 30, 2004, in accordance with Section 10.0 of the Board’s Representation Manual.


A copy of the fax we received can be found here in PDF format. It is over 3mb in size and may take some time to download.

 

[twuer]

I smell an appeal!!!! So Dave, why don't you save us the time and tell us. . . does amfa has enough cards or is Seham gonna have to take the gloves off? (again!!!) Do you have 9331 signed authorization cards????

Enquiring minds want to know. I would hate to spill the beans!!

 

[Checking it Out]

When Amfa filed with the NMB on March 12th they claimed to have 60% (9608) of 16,014. In reality, many of the Amfa organizers were reporting 57% (9128). If you take into account the 40 cards turned in on the 15th the number may have gone up to (9168). Anyone involved in the process knows that an average of 3% to 7% of the cards are not valid due to deceased, management, retired, duplications or invalid signatures. If you take the conservative route we can assume the actual number of valid cards may be closer to (8647) 54%. When Amfa national announced they filed with 60%, the organizers had no choice but to follow suit, so as not to make Amfa look incompetent or better yet, the continue lies they publish.

Amfa made a fatal error. When they started this last failed drive the Goal was 10,500-signed cards. When it was apparent this was not achievable, AMFA’s threshold kept declining. Amfa finally settled on filing with over 1300 less cards on March 12th. This was within a few weeks of losing a large portion of signed cards. Now they want us to believe it was not their fault. Well if they had stuck with the 10,500 thresholds, an election might be held today.

You can’t tell me Amfa did not read the NMB guidelines and see there are more eligible members than the 16,014 Amfa claimed. Now they want us to believe AA inflated the numbers. When in fact it was Amfa who failed to do their homework and use a more accurate number.

AA supplied the NMB with a list of 18,698 on March 15th. And has repeatedly stayed within this threshold. The latest filing is 18,708. The NMB has ruled under the mechanic class and craft that certain individuals have the right to vote. Which does not necessarily follow AA/TWU title groups.

AA last filing was 18,708 on May 24th. Well the NMB ruled today that the actual number is 18,661. If you follow AMFA’s own guidelines, the cards that should have been collected were 11,197 (60%). Amfa submitted well over 2000 less cards. This puts the Percentage filed by Amfa at 46%. If we look back, you will see my predictions were correct. And if you look back a few weeks ago, Dave Stewart wrote that Amfa needed to keep the AA eligibility list between 17,100 and 17,500 to have an election. Who is telling whom the truth? If you go back and look at the letter Amfa passed out earlier this month they openly admit the cards submitted was approx. 9200.

Amfa will twist this around and make it appear the TWU inflated the eligibility list when in fact the TWU did nothing more than follow the NMB guidelines. Amfa will also attempt to say the TWU inflated the list by adding management, when in fact they never once considered management in the formula. In fact, we know Amfa collected cards from management.

Amfa and the organizers have done many unethical things to try to call for an election and twist the truth when in fact it has been their downfall. The truth does prevail! Don’t be fooled by the lies, intimidations and half-truths Amfa is famous for!
Amfa had their chance for 42 years with no less than 6 attempts to replace the TWU and has done nothing more than tear down the unity within the TWU. This is nothing more than a management tool. Don’t continue to be a fool, look and you will see Amfa for what they are! “Losersâ€￾.

I ask you to stop and see the true majority has chosen to stay with the TWU by not signing a card! I hope the Amfa organizers will have enough respect to honor the majority wishes.

The many volunteers within the TWU are willing and waiting in case the Amfa wannabes raise their heads again. I want to thank all the TWU Brothers and Sisters who have spent the time to educating the members about the pitfalls of Amfa!

 

[proAMFA]

Why did Mr. Little and Mr. McDonald fail to mention the appeal language in the ruling? This only reinforces my belief that these men are incapable of informing the membership in terms of whole-truths rather than half-truths.

 

[Rusty]

Well if they had stuck with the 10,500 thresholds, an election might be held today.

"Might" is the key word here Kevin but, I doubt it. The company and their company union would have just raised the number eligible to vote. The process is not over and I do not see a decision on the ruling.

I find it hard to understand why the twu advocates seem to think they have won. The only time you will be able to say you have won is if an election is held and then you win the election. I do realize that in your mind adn others like you this is a possible win but, no matter how you look at it Kevin if an election is not held we are all losers, Democracy lost and corruption won.

 

[Bob Owens]

Even if you did "win", no big deal. UAL went through the same thing, yet in the end AMFA prevailed. Many of those added to the list are out on the line. They should be easy to get since the TWU outsourced many of their jobs.