New Tulsa Attitudes

[proAMT]

Campaign 2010 Tulsa

Candidates Running for President who are ANTI WORKING TOGETHER

Kevin Creaser

Candidates Running for Vice President who are ANTI WORKING TOGETHER

Dennis Hayes

The end of cowardly submission for fear of losing jobs. We've done our part-time for them to do theirs.

A new attitude in Tulsa.

Real Unionism is back.

 

[proAMT]

Here's another new attitude a union that works for the wrench turner rather than for the company.

 

[Hopeful]

Here's another new attitude a union that works for the wrench turner rather than for the company.

WOW, what a novel idea! You think the TWU is capable of that?

 

[The Goose]

WOW, what a novel idea! You think the TWU is capable of that?

The TWU - no.

An individual candidate may well run on this premise, but once Little reads the new boy into office it will either be the SOS or, if he can't be turned, a visit from Guido and Vido out of NYC to explain in no uncertain terms how the TWU does business and the costs associated with not playing ball.

It's all a nice thought, but Little would never allow it to happen - far too much at stake for him financially.

 

[proAMT]

Working together imply's that both the workers and the company benefit from cooperating with each other. This relationship has been one sided.

I have my own novel idea. They do their job managing the airline and we do what we where hired to do-fix aircraft. Our efforts should not be spent managing the airline rather our efforts should be spent improving the quality of our maintenance. Our maintenance should set the standard.

The public should know that our maintenance is the best around.

 

[The Goose]

Working together imply's that both the workers and the company benefit from cooperating with each other. This relationship has been one sided.

I have my own novel idea. They do their job managing the airline and we do what we where hired to do-fix aircraft. Our efforts should not be spent managing the airline rather our efforts should be spent improving the quality of our maintenance. Our maintenance should set the standard.

The public should know that our maintenance is the best around.

Agreed, but what would our "maintenance being the best" and "setting the standard" matter to a flying public whose only concern is a cheap ticket?

Far better to leave the industry altogether and let it rot. After seeing what I have at American in the last few years, I will not get on another aircraft (excepting military) again - ever. As long as I can drive, I will - when I can't, I'll stay home.

I try to discourage friends and family from flying also by telling them some of the things I personally have witnessed but they find the half-assed maintenance practices of "Bar-B-Que" Bob Redding we've all seen too hard to believe and fly anyway because it's "convenient". A "convenient" way to become an overgrown lawn dart, perhaps.

Three more years and I never want to see another airplane again.

 

[proAMT]

With the numbers we have in Tulsa the establishment needs to know that things are about to change.

Radical idea? Yep, we run our own renegade local. We run our own union. The renegade 514. He can either get on board or suffer the consequences politically.

Why should we be their patsy any more? They've been calling the shots and we've lost more in the last 10 years than we have in the previous 30. I'd be ashamed of that record and of the selling out of the membership on such a colossal scale.

The union is supposed to represent it's membership not aid the company in whipping up hysteria and selling concessionary contracts to petrified jelly-spined membership members who react to duress with fear by voting yes to something that was clearly against their best interest.

Throw away fear and intimidation and start acting like men. Represent us how we should be represented or suffer the consequences.

Like I said before we're going back to real unionism. Get aboard or get out of the way.

 

[The Goose]

With the numbers we have in Tulsa the establishment needs to know that things are about to change.

Radical idea? Yep, we run our own renegade local. We run our own union. The renegade 514. He can either get on board or suffer the consequences politically.

Why should we be their patsy any more? They've been calling the shots and we've lost more in the last 10 years than we have in the previous 30. I'd be ashamed of that record and of the selling out of the membership on such a colossal scale.

The union is supposed to represent it's membership not aid the company in whipping up hysteria and selling concessionary contracts to petrified jelly-spined membership members who react to duress with fear by voting yes to something that was clearly against their best interest.

Throw away fear and intimidation and start acting like men. Represent us how we should be represented or suffer the consequences.

Like I said before we're going back to real unionism. Get aboard or get out of the way.

You sir, and those like minded, are a group of friggin' troublemakers - where do I sign?

AAARRGGH, me hearties - we'll run the slimey bilge rats through with our sabres ... Gawd, what a pleasant thought!!

 

[Chuck Schalk]

Campaign 2010 Tulsa

Candidates Running for President who are ANTI WORKING TOGETHER

Kevin Creaser

Candidates Running for Vice President who are ANTI WORKING TOGETHER

Dennis Hayes

The end of cowardly submission for fear of losing jobs. We've done our part-time for them to do theirs.

A new attitude in Tulsa.

Real Unionism is back.




I welcome the possibility of true grit in Tulsa. The line can work with optimism of Tulsa obtaining representation that knows how to play the game and who has shown their strength to defy the company populas to what they thought was right. Tulsa needs leaders for the people not followers of the company.

This message has been approved by Chuck Schalk/JFK

 

[TWU informer]

Go for it.

First step is make by-law changes to get control of the corrupt balloting process.

Failure to do so will lead to same past results !

Get the changes going now Don't wait. Me telling you I told you so will get us nowhere.

If you cannot demostrate enough support and organizational skills to get simple by-law changes rammed through on the Tulsa Base that will level the ballot counts for the field of candidates then you really are just posting a pipe dream that is indicitive of frustrated cheerleaders instead of viable candidates that will lead to meanignful change.

Good Luck - Use your skills to organize a legally won right to distribution to begin the campaign of change long before the election or even nominations. Solidify yourself.

If I can help let me know.

 

[proAMT]

No Working Together language!

It is their job to manage the airline and not ours. Our job is to fix aircraft.

A union man cannot wear a blue collar and a tie and truly represent it's membership.

When bargains are made behind locked doors and the union official and the management member come out slapping each other on the back guess who just took it in the shorts?

If a union official wants to manage that's fine-leave the union.

 

[TWU informer]

It would be far superior for any candidate for union office take the position that the membership will be given a ballot regarding the working together process, and the leadership will follow the direction of the membership.

I oppose the "working together" process as I believe it to be nothing more than a union busting scam. The Company inclusion of the desire to secure the scam in the recent "company proposal" soldifies my belief and further demonstrates that participation is not in our best interest. Why do you think the company feels the need to compel our participation via contract language? Simple they are winners in the scam and fear we will dump it soon.

However, taking the position that the membership will be allowed a ballot and their direction will be followed demonstrates that a candidate is interested in the membership desires and includes the membership in the process of removing the union from the scam. Instead of commanding a position from the campaign position.

Truth is we think we know what the majority thinks about it, but there is only one way to be clear on that issue. A Ballot Vote by the Membership.

 

[Bob Owens]

The TWU - no.

An individual candidate may well run on this premise, but once Little reads the new boy into office it will either be the SOS or, if he can't be turned, a visit from Guido and Vido out of NYC to explain in no uncertain terms how the TWU does business and the costs associated with not playing ball.

It's all a nice thought, but Little would never allow it to happen - far too much at stake for him financially.

You give Local 514 too much importance. Sure it can make or break the TitleI II and V contracts AA but you are talking 6000 members in a union with over 100,000 members. From the Internationals perspective theres more at stake at the SWA Locals which are probably both a little bigger than 514, then you have the transit locals such as Local 100, with 36000 members.

 

[MTheory]

The TWU - no.

An individual candidate may well run on this premise, but once Little reads the new boy into office it will either be the SOS or, if he can't be turned, a visit from Guido and Vido out of NYC to explain in no uncertain terms how the TWU does business and the costs associated with not playing ball.

It's all a nice thought, but Little would never allow it to happen - far too much at stake for him financially.

Being from NYC myself - "Vido" is spelled with a "t" - "VITO"

Thanks 😀

Owens is right though - TUL is not big enough by itself, to be of any consequnce to Little.

 

[TWU informer]

Being from NYC myself - "Vido" is spelled with a "t" - "VITO"

Thanks 😀

Owens is right though - TUL is not big enough by itself, to be of any consequnce to Little.

Actually since Steve Luis got elected President it appears more like AA Management controls Local 514 not Jim Little.