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The AB was introduced and had very very few problems, that is why it only flew into 4 stations to ensure a smooth transition to the fleet, CLT, PHL, RIC and TPA were chosen.

The 170s have been nothing but problems due to faulty software, and the F100 was a bear when first introduced.
 
320 wrote: On August 10 the Wall Street Journal reported "according to US Airways' disclosure statement, America West will become a wholly owned subsidiary of US Airways

SL: There is written language in many union contracts that if U sells to another carrier then the aggreements goes back to pre-BK wages. This is how they will get around that one.

If someone worked as hard at running the airline than screwing the employees.... then U would be kicking butt around the industry.
 
EyeInTheSky said:
Sorry but the EM 70 has issues. Last week I witnessed TWO flights in a row from DCA to ORD cancel because of mechanicals. Passengers were not happy at all.
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It's still relatively new to the fleet. The EMB170 is a complicated and novel aircraft, and these "growing pains" are common when a new type is introduced, especially an "electric jet" like the EMB170.

The F100 had just as many problems, maybe more, when it was introduced, and likewise the A320 series. The learning curve to understand the "personalities" of these aircraft is very steep indeed.
 
This aircraft was introduced almost 1 1/2 years ago!! How long can you still claim "growing pains" It like having a baby years ago and still claiming, "It's just baby weight". We need to face that it is a great aircraft from a f/a and customer comfort point, but for anything else....it's not great.
 
On the ERJ 145 I used to fly, we went through SEVENTEEN EICAS revisions until the sensor gremlins were all worked out. 17....and you wonder why we couldn't do anything right!
 
When will the 190's be available for delivery, and will the timing be
such that they replace the boeings as they are leaving?

The last I heard Jet Blue had not received any yet.
 
First, neither the Airbus nor the F100 were launched for the first time at USAir. Other carriers were flying those aircraft and we were able to benefit from their operational knowlege. USAirways was the launch customer of the Embraer 170, first to train on the Embraer 170, and still the group all others come to for subject matter specialty on the aircraft. The last software load will go into the aircraft in the next 30 days which will eliminate the "computer" related issues.

A320Pilot; MDA is not a subsidiary of mainline, PSA and PDT are, but MDA is the very same. Don't believe me, go ask the FAA. Still not convinced, wait until the matter goes before an arbitrator/court for damages and failure of representation. Taking dues from members who are not honestly represented is extortion (not class and craft representation).

MDA pilots and their unity have done EVERYTHING for themselves. The America West MEC has done more in support of the MDA pilots than the skirts in the AAA of the same union. 300 professionals had the integrity to stand up for what was right, and the difference they have made has been more than anything the AAA silver pins have pulled off since this mess started in 2001.

ALL OR NONE!

:up:
 
700UW said:
The AB was introduced and had very very few problems, that is why it only flew into 4 stations to ensure a smooth transition to the fleet, CLT, PHL, RIC and TPA were chosen.

The 170s have been nothing but problems due to faulty software, and the F100 was a bear when first introduced.
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Actually, the original stations were CLT, PHL, TPA and RDU.
 
SoldWholeSale said:
First, neither the Airbus nor the F100 were launched for the first time at USAir. Other carriers were flying those aircraft and we were able to benefit from their operational knowlege. USAirways was the launch customer of the Embraer 170, first to train on the Embraer 170, and still the group all others come to for subject matter specialty on the aircraft. The last software load will go into the aircraft in the next 30 days which will eliminate the "computer" related issues.

A320Pilot; MDA is not a subsidiary of mainline, PSA and PDT are, but MDA is the very same. Don't believe me, go ask the FAA. Still not convinced, wait until the matter goes before an arbitrator/court for damages and failure of representation. Taking dues from members who are not honestly represented is extortion (not class and craft representation).

MDA pilots and their unity have done EVERYTHING for themselves. The America West MEC has done more in support of the MDA pilots than the skirts in the AAA of the same union. 300 professionals had the integrity to stand up for what was right, and the difference they have made has been more than anything the AAA silver pins have pulled off since this mess started in 2001.

ALL OR NONE!

:up:
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This is very true the pilots have done it on their own and I hope they come out with smiles on their faces for all their hard work and tim. Not to mention the stress it has caused on everyone of these MDA employees.
 
700UW said:
The AB was introduced and had very very few problems, that is why it only flew into 4 stations to ensure a smooth transition to the fleet, CLT, PHL, RIC and TPA were chosen.

The 170s have been nothing but problems due to faulty software, and the F100 was a bear when first introduced.
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:shock: WHE'RE ON ABOUT THE 16TH EPIC "SOFTWARE" UPGRADE. MOST OF THE PROBLEMS OCCURRING NOW ARE WITH DESIGN FLAWS SUCH AS CHAFFING SLAT HARNESSES, MIS MOUNTED BRACKETS ETC. BUT THE MAIN THING IS WHEN SOMETHING BREAKS THERE IS NO PARTS IN STOCK AND THE PROCESS TO GET THEM FROM EMBRAER FLL BEGINS!
 
Winglet said:
The F100 was a piece of crap even after the bugs were worked out.
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No it wasn't, I flew it for several years. Most "problems" were stories told by people who never flew it.
 
It was a piece of crap, the cross tie bolts at every mtc station everday on the landing gear had to be inspected due to them breaking and US had two f100s main gear collapse because of it causing extensive damage to both planes.

And all the F100s had to have their main gears replaced with new modified ones because of the problems.

Also the packs would never keep the plane cool, that is why US came up with the cooling mods.

And if they were so good, why were they dumped so fast after 9/11?
 
PineyBob said:
My understanding was the BK of Fokker led to the decsion and concerns over parts availability caused by same.
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You're right.
 
Stork Aerospace bought Fokker Aircraft parts and that part of the business continued to operate even though Fokker ceased building jets.
 
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