New Attendance program

[Dog Wonder]

The contract is wearing pants?

Would that mean it has been debreeched, unbreeched or disbreeched?

 

[goodfellow]

The contract is wearing pants?

Would that mean it has been debreeched, unbreeched or disbreeched?

It, the contract was violated deliberately by the King of corporate for the sandcastle, AH. Article 1a,3f,5t,and 13c and d, not to mention swaps which are contractual as well as being disciplined for the legitimate use of sick time. We the fleet agents are being disrespected as well as our CBA and our leadership!!! AH has admitted the company has screwed up yet they still chose to shove this BS down our throats!!!! Time to show them how you feel?

 

[The Bagfather]

OK Dog Wonder. Breached. I wondered about that but I don't
have spell check and was too lazy to look it up.

So does anyone elso out there have a mandatory meeting coming up?
Maybe on this subject?

 

[dexter]

Employees being issued new ECR reports for full level advancements, violating our 14 day CBA article. They are not following the new 2 point rule between levels and are including expired occurrences which violates our contract and are progressing all members a full level. There is no sanity behind such behavior. Will it ever end or is US just planning on a full Exodus of terminations? Time to take action. Our livelihoods are at stake here.

 

[tea42]

file those grievances people....pour them into the station....some of the things am hearing are ridiculous...insane....once again thanks Velvet for looking out for us.

Its not over....

 

[SpinDoc]

Or are you saying that you want some flexibility in terms of circumstances for each individual employee, and how would we monitor what as being "fair" or remove it from local judgment which appears to be your present issue?

So Considers Jester.

Jester:

As a manager, I would prefer some flexibility because ultimately, there are circumstances which are beyond the control of the employee that should not be applicable to the policy. Unexpected events happen quite frequently that might prevent an employee from getting to the time clock on time, such as traffic accidents, weather events, and the like.

Prior to the implementation of the new policy, it was left up to the judgement of the manager to make the call on an unexpected event. In many cases, it was to managements advantage to let the employee show up late, and change their shift by adjusting the ending time X number of minutes on the back side. This would avoid a late clock in by the agent, and would help management cover any operations that ran later than expected. It was a win-win for both sides. Now, with the new policy, it is a lose-lose proposition.

I guess the goal of AWA management is to elevate their policy of creating animosity between management and the rank and file. There really is no other explanation other than fostering an "US' against "them" environment, which over the long run does nothing but have a negative effect on productivity.

Honestly, I'm dumbfounded at the way this company is operated. If AWA management would take the target off of their most valuable assets (the employees), it would be absolutely amazing how easy it would be to get the job done on a reliable basis every day.

 

[Harry Callahan]

Jester:

As a manager, I would prefer some flexibility because ultimately, there are circumstances which are beyond the control of the employee that should not be applicable to the policy. Unexpected events happen quite frequently that might prevent an employee from getting to the time clock on time, such as traffic accidents, weather events, and the like.

Prior to the implementation of the new policy, it was left up to the judgement of the manager to make the call on an unexpected event. In many cases, it was to managements advantage to let the employee show up late, and change their shift by adjusting the ending time X number of minutes on the back side. This would avoid a late clock in by the agent, and would help management cover any operations that ran later than expected. It was a win-win for both sides. Now, with the new policy, it is a lose-lose proposition.

I guess the goal of AWA management is to elevate their policy of creating animosity between management and the rank and file. There really is no other explanation other than fostering an "US' against "them" environment, which over the long run does nothing but have a negative effect on productivity.

Honestly, I'm dumbfounded at the way this company is operated. If AWA management would take the target off of their most valuable assets (the employees), it would be absolutely amazing how easy it would be to get the job done on a reliable basis every day.

Not counting contract violations:
I've disagreed with you in the past but this post a BIG

 

[Jester]

Jester:

As a manager, I would prefer some flexibility because ultimately, there are circumstances which are beyond the control of the employee that should not be applicable to the policy. Unexpected events happen quite frequently that might prevent an employee from getting to the time clock on time, such as traffic accidents, weather events, and the like.

Prior to the implementation of the new policy, it was left up to the judgement of the manager to make the call on an unexpected event. In many cases, it was to managements advantage to let the employee show up late, and change their shift by adjusting the ending time X number of minutes on the back side. This would avoid a late clock in by the agent, and would help management cover any operations that ran later than expected. It was a win-win for both sides. Now, with the new policy, it is a lose-lose proposition.

I guess the goal of AWA management is to elevate their policy of creating animosity between management and the rank and file. There really is no other explanation other than fostering an "US' against "them" environment, which over the long run does nothing but have a negative effect on productivity.

Honestly, I'm dumbfounded at the way this company is operated. If AWA management would take the target off of their most valuable assets (the employees), it would be absolutely amazing how easy it would be to get the job done on a reliable basis every day.

SpinDoc,

Your points are valid; however, it overlooks one of the primary complaints and justifications to have an union in the first place, namely, to eliminate management favoritism by providing clear standards applied equally to all within a work group. A point system eliminates local manager's discretion for better or worse by providing a clear measurement and point system. Personally, I do not really care for it that much because as a former management type myself, I "know" who is a good employee and who is a slacker, but this becomes the basis for a grievance later in the unequal treatment of one employee versus another.

I will disagree with you regarding "If AWA management would take the target off of their most valuable assets (the employees), it would be absolutely amazing how easy it would be to get the job done on a reliable basis every day," because that is how things were being done and suspect sick calls, scores of late shows or no shows, and the overall abuse of the system, which required managers to overstaff on a daily basis for the expected high numbers of absentees. This was especially true on the weekends after pay days and in December with the use-it-or-lose-it sick days at the end of the year. Frankly, if employees did not abuse the system, then I doubt management would have instituted this point system, because the issue is not a few sick days and late calls during the year (as that would be only a few points), but rather the equivalent of 60 or more points during a year.

Personally, my objections to this point system would be more based upon its enactment ex post facto in regards to penalizing employees for events prior to this new policy and the punishment of employees for the legitimate use of sick days earned. While in the case of the later, using one earned sick day per month would have someone on Level 4 in a year which is not an unreasonable expectation, given a chronic health condition. Throw in a few late days and the employee is gone. In the past, local managers would have discretion, but in many ways, I blame the employees who abused the system which has forced management's hand to enact a strict, inflexible point system.

So Views Jester.

 

[Old PSA]

It would appear that current management prefers the "stick" approach to dealing with employees. The old PSA had a "carrot" to encourage attendance. At the end of every year the employee could move 5 sick days to vacation days for the next year, there were some conditions but basically if you didn't use over 5 days of sick during the year, you could add 5 days of vacation next year. That was a big incentive to not use sick days.

 

[NevadaHP]

Jester, Like Ive said before I dont have a problem with a CONSISTENT POLICY that doesnt violate our contract. However this policy does violate our contract. My other personal belief is that this should of started Jan 1. and start everyone with a clean slate. No double points for calling in sick, because your a single parent, and cant legally leave your child home alone if they are younger than i believe 11. NO holiday week double points. And if you bring a doctors note you should receive no points. Now if they can use that outline not violate our contract I think the majority would be happy with a consistent policy.

 

[NevadaHP]

Jester, also Spin doctor did make a point i want to bring up, Mgmnt or leads or whoever is in scheduling for smaller east cities, were VERY flexible on lates and sick calls. Some stations on the East have perfect attendance, yes a whole station. Trust me I thought it was not possible, however it was because an employee could call in to the lead or mgr and say hey Im running late can your Auto me in late or do a partial shift trade with someone on property to cover me til i get in, same with sick calls. This was done numerous times to avoid discipline however the bigger stations have workbrain and we are held to a higher more restrictive policy. This is another reason why it should of started Jan 1 with everyone on a clean slate.

 

[SpinDoc]

...an employee could call in to the lead or mgr and say hey Im running late can your Auto me in late or do a partial shift trade with someone on property to cover me til i get in, same with sick calls. This was done numerous times to avoid discipline however the bigger stations have workbrain and we are held to a higher more restrictive policy. This is another reason why it should of started Jan 1 with everyone on a clean slate.

NevadaHP:

Even in stations with WB, it was possible to cover late and sick calls with shift adjustments and/or last minute shift trades. Prior to the new policy it was all about keeping the wheels oiled and making sure coverage was available, leading to a "win-win" for both the company and the employees.

Now, sadly, in theory it is a cut and dried situation where there is no room to do the right thing. Again, I will roll out the "Us" versus "them" argument and how PHX appears to be making it more difficult for airport managers to make local decisions that can affect the morale in a positive way versus a punitive way.

I once heard that you can catch a lot more flies with honey than you can with a hammer, but Ah..... I guess I must have heard wrong. Maybe I'm not cut out to be a manager in this outfit because I have principles and believe in the win-win proposition.

 

[NevadaHP]

spin Doc, I know its a simple entry however it was done more liberally to some than others, and it can still be munipulated with the NEW policy in place

 

[necigrad]

If the Company would embrace the USAFs definition of leadership, this policy would be completly unnecessary and US would be a far nicer place to work:

the art of influencing and directing people in a way that will win their obedience, confidence, respect, and loyal cooperation in achieving a common objective.

 

[skinvalve]

Which employee group will be next to fall under the new attendance program? Pilot's, F/A's, mech's, res, etc ? Let's not kid ourselves, the writting is on the wall!