New A-330's ordered

[bigbusboy]

come on guys. is all this bashing necesarry? phlfa88 , i know you and you r a good guy and a great f/a. don't get caught up in this east and west crap. you know better than that. you gonna get a heart attack for god's sake!! have a good thanksgiving my friend .

Good point....sorry I even quoted UPN'

 

[JetMonkey]

If We NEVER Cease To Amaze You...Then Just Say NO To The Profit Share Check You Will Get AGAIN From To Backs Of Us EASTIES!! :down:

Ha! That's rich. You people wouldn't HAVE a profit to share if it wasn't for this marriage. Don't flatter yourself. Enjoy you're turkey. Turkey.

 

[PHLfa88]

come on guys. is all this bashing necesarry? phlfa88 , i know you and you r a good guy and a great f/a. don't get caught up in this east and west crap. you know better than that. you gonna get a heart attack for god's sake!! have a good thanksgiving my friend .

LOL..It's All In Jest My Freind!! You Have A Great Turkey Day As Well!! Hope You Are With Your Wife And Kids!! But You Know Me...Never One To Not Respond To Horse SH@@!!

 

[Elevation]

West was only about 3-6 months behind East. So don't gloat.

You can't file 2 bankruptcy's in 3-6 months Oh they forget so quickly

 

[Atlantic]

As I said before, the 340 order was in the bag.
Now, the 340 is like a 330, but two more engines. No US airline flys both. FAA has to get onboard, but how about our guys flying both under a common rating. It should't be a big deal.

 

[Atlantic]

I jumped the gun. The company has not announced this yet. However gr.inst. are in school for the 340s. We'll see where it leades.

 

[BoeingBoy]

how about our guys flying both under a common rating. It should't be a big deal.

As far as I know, the 340 and 330 don't have a common type rating, so no flying both.

Jim

 

[JayBrian]

As far as I know, the 340 and 330 don't have a common type rating, so no flying both.

Jim

Is it possible to concurrently hold both type ratings?

 

[ableoneable]

Is it possible to concurrently hold both type ratings?

You can easily stay current on two different types. Northwest used to have people triple qualified.

 

[Elevation]

As I said before, the 340 order was in the bag.
Now, the 340 is like a 330, but two more engines. No US airline flys both. FAA has to get onboard, but how about our guys flying both under a common rating. It should't be a big deal.

Type ratings are there for safety not for convenience of training. Why would you want to be double or triple qualified to make it easy on management or to screw your fellow pilots?

 

[NYGiantsFan90]

Not sure, but I do think they are the same type rating, from Airbus:

Airbus pioneered the concept of aircraft commonality in its new generation of fly-by-wire jetliners, and the A330/A340 Family brings these advantages to six aircraft with seating capacities of 250 to 475 passengers and operating ranges from regional segments to ultra-long-distance routes.

The A330 and A340 feature nearly identical cockpits and have highly similar flying qualities, allowing both aircraft to be operated by a common pool of pilots. In fact, flight crews can transition from the A340 to the A330 in only one day, while a move from the A330 to A340 is performed in just three days. The savings in time – which compares to 25 days for a full type rating training course required with competing aircraft – mean lower training costs for airlines and increased crew productivity.

Another advantage of Airbus commonality is a pilot's ability to be current on more than one Airbus fly-by-wire aircraft type at a time. This is known as Mixed Fleet Flying and enables a pilot rated on an A340 to switch from very long-haul operations to short- or medium-haul flights at the controls of the A320 Family. This opens new crew scheduling possibilities and provides a mix of flying opportunities that is highly appreciated by pilots.

 

[nycbusdriver]

THEN GO FLY SOME ONE ELSE ALREADY!!!!!

I do. Whenever I go on vacation, buy a ticket on almost any carrier other than US or AW, even though I can travel on US for free.

 

[nycbusdriver]

As far as I know, the 340 and 330 don't have a common type rating, so no flying both.

Jim

The 757 and 767 do not have a common type rating either. On my license they are specified separately. However, the FAA permits both rating to go on the license at the same time due to the commonality of the two cockpits. In order to do this, the ground school and testing must be done on BOTH airplanes, and the Initial Operating Experience must include a minimum number of landings in each in order to be let loose on the unsuspecting customers.

This sounds very much like the A330 and A340 situation. It appeared from the A330 ground school that the systems are laid out with a four-engine jet in mind. Each engine has TWO hydraulic pumps, for instance. My hunch is that the A340 systems are much more like the A330 systems than the B757/B767.

Here is what Airbus has to say on their website:

"The A330 and A340 feature nearly identical cockpits and have highly similar flying qualities, allowing both aircraft to be operated by a common pool of pilots. In fact, flight crews can transition from the A340 to the A330 in only one day, while a move from the A330 to A340 is performed in just three days. The savings in time – which compares to 25 days for a full type rating training course required with competing aircraft – mean lower training costs for airlines and increased crew productivity.

Another advantage of Airbus commonality is a pilot's ability to be current on more than one Airbus fly-by-wire aircraft type at a time. This is known as Mixed Fleet Flying and enables a pilot rated on an A340 to switch from very long-haul operations to short- or medium-haul flights at the controls of the A320 Family. This opens new crew scheduling possibilities and provides a mix of flying opportunities that is highly appreciated by pilots."


http://www.airbus.com/en/aircraftfamilies/...ommonality.html

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Oh, and as far as flying characteristics and procedures, the A330 handles almost identically to the A320 series and the procedures are all but interchangeable.

 

[luvthe9]

US Airways to Add Seven Airbus A330-200 Aircraft to Fleet

Nov. 20, 2007

These are not additions they are replacements.

 

[NYGiantsFan90]

What are they replacing?

US has not said anything about parking 767s they are refurbishing them.

US needs more widebody lift, not less.