New 757's for the winter?

[Boeing Boeing GONE]

So we have 3 ex ATA's 757's for incresed summer seasonal service to europe.. Will these planes do domestic/carribbean in the winter or return to lease?

 

[john john]

Didn’t you here there is a big Airbus order and all pilots have to take a pay cut to get the big order on the property. Hum…….Flash Back Sorry not aloud to talk about the pass employees screwing

 

[pit_needs_help]

So we have 3 ex ATA's 757's for incresed summer seasonal service to europe.. Will these planes do domestic/carribbean in the winter or return to lease?

CLT based crews flying them so probably Caribbean flying during the Winter...maybe Latin America too. Probably need a 1-2 more for Europe service anyway with maint issues etc.

 

[usairways85]

CLT based crews are flying them eventhough they will only see PHL service(at least in the summer so far)?

 

[etops1]

you mean clt will be doing lis,gla,and snn?

 

[Travelpro72]

Hmmm that seems like a lot of deadheading or hotel costs. I don't know about that. Quite enough people in PHL to do it.

 

[john john]

Are we getting some 75’s and giving back some 75’s?

 

[Travelpro72]

All of the aircraft that the east were to return have been returned. I think west has maybe a few that are going relatively soon.

 

[PhxRanchHand]

How many 57's (except the 3 ATA birds that are not in service yet) under the US Certificate are ETOPS. Would a 57 make it to europe without ETOPS???

 

[etops1]

How many 57's (except the 3 ATA birds that are not in service yet) under the US Certificate are ETOPS. Would a 57 make it to europe without ETOPS???

none and no. hope that helps.

 

[john john]

All of the aircraft that the east were to return have been returned.

So we are keeping all the 757 that are on the property as of today

 

[PhxRanchHand]

none and no. hope that helps.

Thanks ETOPS, so if the east is "given"the etops ata planes, then how can they use them for europe service, or will HP do the europe and US take ove some domestic 57 service???

 

[rjh]

Thanks ETOPS, so if the east is "given"the etops ata planes, then how can they use them for europe service, or will HP do the europe and US take ove some domestic 57 service???

HP will only have enough ETOPS planes to do Hawaii service, and HP is also only certified to do ETOPS over the Pacific, not Atlantic.

 

[PhxRanchHand]

HP will only have enough ETOPS planes to do Hawaii service, and HP is also only certified to do ETOPS over the Pacific, not Atlantic.

still then, if east has no etops 57's or programs for 57, then would it be easier to get an altlantic added to an existing program or a new one. i am just trying to figure out how all of this works. I don't see ETOPS as being east/west ocen as much as the distance that it is flying

 

[etops1]

still then, if east has no etops 57's or programs for 57, then would it be easier to get an altlantic added to an existing program or a new one. i am just trying to figure out how all of this works. I don't see ETOPS as being east/west ocen as much as the distance that it is flying

i really don't get what your trying to say here but if it's training your worried about for our east pilots we already fly the 767 which is etops certified. any pilot rated on the 767 is also rated on the 757 since it's basically the same cockpit. so our pilots are already certified etops . we are just adding smaller 767's to the fleet . these just went on a diet. bottom line is these a/c will be flown by east pilots to snn,gla,and lis.
in the future though you might see some west pilots take over these routes since it's in the pilots transition agreement that west pilots can fly 2 europe and 3 carribean flts on the east network and the east pilots can fly 1 hawaii round trip . its really not a difficult thing to comprehend . your just making it hard on yourself.