Mr. Glass On My J/s..one Hour Q&a
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i have e-mailed him on these issues and he told me the exact same thing . especially on a rotating reserve system and on removing the itd/domestic fence to create a more efficient ops. very positive news. but be prepared for pit, cav ,lightyears and the other gang to shoot you down. they don't like to here positive news. they like to dwell on the negative to keep the topic hot.
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Thanks BusFlt321.
My thoughts (not directed at you):
Wonder how much will be gained by "using ALL" PHL runways. I'm sure some, just not sure how much the RJ's and mainline a/c can use it.
My only trip so far this month, the ACARS was using the wrong "out" time on every leg (6 different planes) and the same times were in catcrew (pay). So much for not affecting the pay - though there are work-arounds.
Pref bidding delayed - wonder if they will insist on pay adjustment if it's not in place on June 1?
Can't wait to see the "different direction" on those 60 airplanes!!!
Jim
My thoughts (not directed at you):
Wonder how much will be gained by "using ALL" PHL runways. I'm sure some, just not sure how much the RJ's and mainline a/c can use it.
My only trip so far this month, the ACARS was using the wrong "out" time on every leg (6 different planes) and the same times were in catcrew (pay). So much for not affecting the pay - though there are work-arounds.
Pref bidding delayed - wonder if they will insist on pay adjustment if it's not in place on June 1?
Can't wait to see the "different direction" on those 60 airplanes!!!
Jim
Delldude,
Don't go confusing the lack of money and tooling with what's really missing here , it's called Honesty and Integrity !!!
The fact that they would even consider moving heavy maintenance farther away from the heart of the operation...and to a city with even lower O&D traffic than PIT or CLT shows just how clueless these people are.
I'm sure the people in IND are willing to offer great initial deals to lure U to that facility in light of UA's rapid departure....but what will take place in the long term will be a repeat of what took place in PIT under Colodny. Meaning this....it will be a short term victory on paper for a few years...I'd venture to say five at most. No taxes or lower taxes to insure the move...then you will see a "Balloon Payment" type scenario creep into play. This in essence will be a repeat of the PIT failure in a lack of a "Pay as you go" scenario. ....Heck what do these bafoons care anyway? Like Colodny , when the bill comes due , they will be retired from U with millions upon millions in their bank accounts....and it will be someone elses problem , along with labors problem to endure yet again.
Remember this fact. PIT's present problems were born in the mid 1980's ...and it's hurting both U and the residents of that region almost 20 years later. The problem is not the people , the problem is not the facility itself....the problem is how it was paid for...or as we know , Not paid for.
A real leader does not look at whats good for the moment...or whats good enough to last during their tenure. A real leader is a projective thinker with long range vision....what U in 2004 does, should be a precurser to what should be great things for the U of 2014 and beyond. Sadly a mid-west maintenance base without a passenger base to match is none of the above. I will use UA's rapid departure of IND as a case in point. They could have closed a number of places...but they elected to close a boom-time deal as opposed to one of their legacy facilities.
Don't go confusing the lack of money and tooling with what's really missing here , it's called Honesty and Integrity !!!
The fact that they would even consider moving heavy maintenance farther away from the heart of the operation...and to a city with even lower O&D traffic than PIT or CLT shows just how clueless these people are.
I'm sure the people in IND are willing to offer great initial deals to lure U to that facility in light of UA's rapid departure....but what will take place in the long term will be a repeat of what took place in PIT under Colodny. Meaning this....it will be a short term victory on paper for a few years...I'd venture to say five at most. No taxes or lower taxes to insure the move...then you will see a "Balloon Payment" type scenario creep into play. This in essence will be a repeat of the PIT failure in a lack of a "Pay as you go" scenario. ....Heck what do these bafoons care anyway? Like Colodny , when the bill comes due , they will be retired from U with millions upon millions in their bank accounts....and it will be someone elses problem , along with labors problem to endure yet again.
Remember this fact. PIT's present problems were born in the mid 1980's ...and it's hurting both U and the residents of that region almost 20 years later. The problem is not the people , the problem is not the facility itself....the problem is how it was paid for...or as we know , Not paid for.
A real leader does not look at whats good for the moment...or whats good enough to last during their tenure. A real leader is a projective thinker with long range vision....what U in 2004 does, should be a precurser to what should be great things for the U of 2014 and beyond. Sadly a mid-west maintenance base without a passenger base to match is none of the above. I will use UA's rapid departure of IND as a case in point. They could have closed a number of places...but they elected to close a boom-time deal as opposed to one of their legacy facilities.
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I'm sure that AOG or delldude can elaborate, but don't PIT and CLT have existing hanger/track capacity to perform these checks?
Moreover, why bother closing TPA (except to bust employee nutz) if you are just going to turn around and buy into IND?
These guys (CCY) are well and truly clueless. Moreover, the IAM should supeona Dave and Jerry for the appeal in PHL and ask them about the "lack of tooling and money" if they have IND as a "backup" plan.
Moreover, why bother closing TPA (except to bust employee nutz) if you are just going to turn around and buy into IND?
These guys (CCY) are well and truly clueless. Moreover, the IAM should supeona Dave and Jerry for the appeal in PHL and ask them about the "lack of tooling and money" if they have IND as a "backup" plan.
..just to insert correct information from someone who lives in Indy and has worked for both UA & US....
1) The MTC center in IND is already 75% outfitted. The equipment and tools were for some silly reason bought by the BAA who runs the airport and belong to them. So when UA, left - they actually did an inventory and most of the tools and equipment are there.
2) The Mayor and City-County Council have all been in the paper and on TV since UA left stating that they would seek a tenant, but they would not give the type of tax breaks to someone new that they had given to UA, especially US (there were a lot of rumors in the press on that issue). US would have to have another reason for moving here - but doubtful they would anyway. They had an opportunity in the planning of the new airport that is being built to give their input and were even offered tax breaks to leave PIT for IND as a hub - they said no thanks and instead asked for lower lease rates and lower landing fees. Trying to bite the hand that feeds you may be their way of doing business, but it doesn't tend to work in one's favor.
3) The O&D traffic is not lower than PIT, on US it most definitely has dropped. But that is due to the increased flights by ATA and WN. AA, UA, and DL have all added flights again - the second time in 6 months, while US has cut back.
...on a personal note, as a former US employee - I wouldn't want the airline here. I live here and pay taxes and would ultimately end up paying for the inevitable screw ups that would occur.
1) The MTC center in IND is already 75% outfitted. The equipment and tools were for some silly reason bought by the BAA who runs the airport and belong to them. So when UA, left - they actually did an inventory and most of the tools and equipment are there.
2) The Mayor and City-County Council have all been in the paper and on TV since UA left stating that they would seek a tenant, but they would not give the type of tax breaks to someone new that they had given to UA, especially US (there were a lot of rumors in the press on that issue). US would have to have another reason for moving here - but doubtful they would anyway. They had an opportunity in the planning of the new airport that is being built to give their input and were even offered tax breaks to leave PIT for IND as a hub - they said no thanks and instead asked for lower lease rates and lower landing fees. Trying to bite the hand that feeds you may be their way of doing business, but it doesn't tend to work in one's favor.
3) The O&D traffic is not lower than PIT, on US it most definitely has dropped. But that is due to the increased flights by ATA and WN. AA, UA, and DL have all added flights again - the second time in 6 months, while US has cut back.
...on a personal note, as a former US employee - I wouldn't want the airline here. I live here and pay taxes and would ultimately end up paying for the inevitable screw ups that would occur.
word was PIT/CLT would each get a 's' check track in all probabilities.however those mean,evil wicked and nasty boys who fought for their contractually guaranteed work will most likely be singled out and porked as far as where the work would be done.remember,it was PIT/CLT IAM who were and are in the driver seat for the most part with this court battle.(most heavy work done here)
and i remember labor friendly dave making a comment on some media after their loss in PIT FED court and he was asked where they would do this work...his reply was not PIT or CLT.
so next week is the big day in court and we shall finally see what goes.
and i remember labor friendly dave making a comment on some media after their loss in PIT FED court and he was asked where they would do this work...his reply was not PIT or CLT.
so next week is the big day in court and we shall finally see what goes.
Dell,
I do believe that you have over-simplified the obvious in a manner that most anyone can digest. The crux of this ordeal is this....If Seigel doesn't get his way in court?.....he goes 180 degrees out on whats already in place , namely PIT and CLT regarding the work.
The issue of altering a working situation means nothing...the issue of the costs of relocating means nothing .....the issues of the hardships and anger this will create among those affected means nothing. The only thing that matters in this situation is Seigel getting even in some manner or another.
We are in the hands of lunatics !!! :down:
I do believe that you have over-simplified the obvious in a manner that most anyone can digest. The crux of this ordeal is this....If Seigel doesn't get his way in court?.....he goes 180 degrees out on whats already in place , namely PIT and CLT regarding the work.
The issue of altering a working situation means nothing...the issue of the costs of relocating means nothing .....the issues of the hardships and anger this will create among those affected means nothing. The only thing that matters in this situation is Seigel getting even in some manner or another.
We are in the hands of lunatics !!! :down:
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Funny I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but the Tooling the Avaiation Authority has is for Boeing 757s as that is the only plane UAL worked on in IND.
Second ATA has all ready proposed to lease some hangar space at IND and stores warehousing of some parts and FedEx is reported to have some interest in that hangar also.
And third, since when is Jerry G allowed to fly jumpseat?
Second ATA has all ready proposed to lease some hangar space at IND and stores warehousing of some parts and FedEx is reported to have some interest in that hangar also.
And third, since when is Jerry G allowed to fly jumpseat?
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I don't think the "likes' of pit, cav & lightyears dwell on the negative thier dwelling on reality & what they see with thier own two eyes !!!etops1 said:
700, I don't know about the tooling situation at the UAL hangar in Indy, But I believe that UAL worked on (at least) 737's and 757's in Indy.. Also , I think they worked on 767's there for a short time before they took the work down to NC to some third party outfit.700UW said:
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When the man on top has his faith in someone who he should not have faith in, it's by definition "his" (Dave's) problem.PineyBob said:
i got fresh poop dude..it goes like this":700UW said:
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