Miami Bid Sheet, Yikes Who Dreams This Crap Up

[FA Mikey]

They felt the need to mix the MAD trips with a single 737 turn, which is fine but since the regular MAD flyers are not 737 qualed they are locked out. The EZE is mixed with 737 Caribbean as well. They made the HORRIBLE VVI trip from an awful trip in to something worse. By adding a UIO on to the third day. Nothing like flying 6 1/2 hours from Santa Cruz sitting in Miami then catching a quick 4 hour flight to UIO. Thank God that crew will get a nice 8 hour 45 min rest before having to work again the next day. Well, so long as they are able to land and not have to divert over to GYE. GRU went to the FN's God forbid we let any of them feel the pain of cuts in pay, vacation or sick accrual or furloughs.

Dont get wrong there are some decent lines to bid. But there are far to many 18 and 19 day lines. Way to many 4 day trips. I am not to concerned I wont be flying VVI. Heck I just may just hold MAD naxt month.

 

[MiAAmi]

I totally agree. This is the absolute worst bid sheet I have ever seen at any airline. The Fall offs to Domestic are looking real good.

 

[FA Mikey]

Agreed. I think though with the way they screwed the senior lines, they will be the first to jump back. I dont know what the seniority for fall off was this month. But everyone I run in to who took it is pretty senior.

 

[L1011Ret]

Sorry to hear... but if MAD=Madrid, then how can that be mixed with the guppy (737)? Is it grieveable? If the lines are 18-19 days they do not sound very productive nor economicly the least cost. They still have to pay layover hotels and expenses.

 

[operaations]

Those do dound like crappy lines. I agree with all of you this time I think Planning is smoking crack half of the time

 

[MiAAmi]

Sorry to hear... but if MAD=Madrid, then how can that be mixed with the guppy (737)? Is it grieveable? If the lines are 18-19 days they do not sound very productive nor economicly the least cost. They still have to pay layover hotels and expenses.

Madrid 767 sequences are mixed with 737 sequences. Alot of senior people who only fly Europe never were 737 qualified. Thus they will be knocked off MAD for October. Along with GRU going to the foreign nationals its safe to say the company will be pissing off even more people.

 

[FWAAA]

Here's a stupid question: How come AA devises the trips without input or involvement from the FAs?? Why has the APFA allowed AA free reign all these years to prepare these trips?

 

[FA Mikey]

APFA's involvement up to now has been the building and maintaining of work rules. I don't know of any flight attendant union who has direct access to building lines. I think it all comes down to work rules which used to maintain a certain quality of life.

 

[FA Mikey]

Sorry to hear... but if MAD=Madrid, then how can that be mixed with the guppy (737)? Is it grieveable? If the lines are 18-19 days they do not sound very productive nor economicly the least cost. They still have to pay layover hotels and expenses.

There seems to be no logical reason to do this. With London they added a 757 Carib turn to additionally throw off people. What they do is bid one line position 1-4 and another 5-8. Since the 737 bids 4 f/a's the turn on all the lines will have an open position. Great planning!!

Now I am not sure if the position 5 will require a purser qual since on the turn they will be number 1. If so that could be argued a violation of seniority twice over. Once by for no good reason added a SINGLE narrow body turn to the line but second requiring 2 positions to be flown by someone purser qualified.

 

[extwacaptain]

Never forget “that old saying†…………â€YOU’RE LUCKY YOU’VE Got A JOBâ€.

And there was another one: Something about: “You’ll Get Over IT.â€

I really think the Devil made me say that.


Randy Kramer

 

[FA Mikey]

Never forget “that old saying†…………â€YOU’RE LUCKY YOU’VE Got A JOBâ€.

And there was another one: Something about: “You’ll Get Over IT.â€

I really think the Devil made me say that.


Randy Kramer

I try to keep that in mind and use it as a perspective when I am having a really rotten day. This bid sheet looks like an attempt to piss off people. I see to reason or anything to the bigger picture as to why they did the things they did for Oct.

 

[WingNaPrayer]

There's also the tried and true AA motto . . .

If it makes sense . . . don't do it!

 

[FA Mikey]

How stupid is this? On MIA DOM there are 20 lines of A300, that pays out 1,588 hours of FREE pay and credit. One thousand five hundred and eighty-eighty hours, paid out for not working. That is just brilliant! As we all well know, its not union work rules that keep lines like this, its just good old fashioned, poor utilization.

 

[FA Mikey]

MIA dom has 6 bid lines 777 that offer out another 440 plus hours of pay and credit for the month.

 

[TWAnr]

I don't know of any flight attendant union who has direct access to building lines.

Mike,

There was at least one union whose scheduling committee regularly met with those who constructed the lines and actually had input and influence over how the lines were put together.

Being that I posted this, the name of the airline and the union are obvious.