Merit Increases Return To Mgmt & Admin Employees

They raises will come and then so will the layoffs. Why not send ccy somewhere else where the cost of living can sustain an employee on LLC pay? <_<
 
It may not be not twisted at all.

In the hospital business there are marketers, business office folks, nurses, phlebotomists, radiologists, doctors, administration, shuttle drivers, housekeeping, computer techs.... it goes on and on

If I refer a nurse who gets hired I get $3000. If I refer a business office person I get $50.

Do you have any idea what kinds of bonuses were given to nurses that I never saw?

Why?

Nurses are in demand and leaving like crazy. When we pay for contract nurses there is no loyalty at all. Quality is down and so is patient satisfaction. If we retain nurses that work for US we can instill our values in them and patient satisfaction goes up. Turnover is EXTREMELY costly.

If turnover is high in CCY, then it may well be cheaper to give raises and additional benefits.
 
Can't say I agree with your analogy, but I must say U absolutely needs to be placed in ICU ASAP and that would be HEAD FIRST.
 
Bob, you say you are a history buff, well then read labor history and learn why they were and are necessary and then complain about them till your blue in the face.

If you come back saying you already read it all, then you’re a hopeless cause and should ask Jerry if he needs a good right hand man.
 
Tim Nelson said:
That is not correct. Although the mechanics, utility, pilots, and other groups will receive 2% raises this year I believe, the fleet service workers decided to vote and approve a contract that did not incorporate raises until July 2005. I believe this is true, however, I have not seen or had access to a fleet service contract.

At any rate, my gut feeling is that the 2% all other groups will get while fleet service will be left out will be 'noted', should fleet service have to vote again.
As soon as everyone hears the word management they automatically assume that they mean the executive suite in CCY. What you fail to realize is that there are thousands of other employees on the MSP that work very hard, just as line employees, and they deserve the same considerations and respect as the contract employees. If all employee groups (excluding fleet service) are scheduled for 2% raises in 2004, why would you not offer the same to MSP, non-contract and clerical? As I said, a 2% raise today (for all employee groups) will just lead to a 6% pay cut tomorrow.

Tim -

I would suggest to you that you get what you negotiate. If IAM-Fleet didn't negotiate the same 2% raise as everyone else, shame on you.
 
Many people think of themselves ( or like to think ) as "management" if they are non-contract ie: salaried rather than hourly, when in fact they are just employees like most everyone else. Maybe a clarification is in order.

BTW, One would have to be kidding themselves to think they will actually see that 2% increase, given the moves and rhetoric of those at the helm.
 
:down: :down: :down:

Merit increases? For what...operating an unprofitable company? Cheating employees? Destroying morale? Any employee who is even entertaining the idea of more give backs to these goobers out to have his/her head examined.
 
Maybe there's a judge somewhere that will decree that 'no salaried U employee may leave his or her employ at U and must be chained to his or her desk and not accept better paid employment elsewhere.' And then maybe that chained U staff will help U management make better decisions and focus on important stuff that is being ignored.
 
Saw a letter handed around last night indicating Dave is ready to hand out more bonuses for the upper crust! Once again his timing is perfect! Anyone out there have any information.
 
Management is saying it is because all contracts have snap backs as well that went into effect January 2004.

I believe the CEO should set example. If we are in dire straights than why are they giving merit raises to management who are not under contract?

Siegel states in a n e-mail that the attrition rate for managment is almost at 100% (exaggeration again), and that non-managment's attrition is near 0% (exaggeration again). He said that this is the true gage of who is underpaid....


That's the CEO writing to a f/a about raises for managment, who he values in the co. and who he does not.
 
If the attrition rate for upper management is 100% then I guess those past bonuses to keep them did no good. And if the non management attrition rate is 0% then shouldn't the bonuses (when the company can afford them) go to the people who are in for the long haul to make this company a success? Sounds like he is putting his faith in the people who do not deserve it. (And I have serious doubts about his statistics. If he will lie about that...)
 
PineyBob said:
Peeky said:
:down: :down: :down:

Merit increases? For what...operating an unprofitable company? Cheating employees? Destroying morale? Any employee who is even entertaining the idea of more give backs to these goobers out to have his/her head examined.
Goobers?????

How nice! It that phrase synonomous with "Union Goon"

Also please provide information to support your assertion that US "Cheated Employees" other than individual grievences?

It seems we have evidence of $212 Million in sick time, a percentage of which can be called abuse, so it raises the question of who's cheating who?

Now we have no idea what comprises the 212 million, so it could be a bogus number or a number using the most generous method of compilation or it could be dead on true.

What more do you need than the HUNDREDS of grievences filed thus far?
 
Little Dave has to realize that nobody who is "at will" enjoys working for a loser, and it's good to get while the getting is good.

If he and the other upper crust at CCY could lead, the attrition would not be as high. You can't buy the kind of loyalty Dave thinks he should command.
 
Ask for money in more concessions and give additional pay to mgt...

Is this like the bonuses they gave to mgt at the same time, we were declaring bancruptcy,.... so we wouldn't lose the talented people....We all know how there is a shortage of people looking for work these days... with this great economy....
 

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