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Mark Foley. Cover up?

Aeroman-

Since in your world God is a micromanager and is responsible for all things in our lives (including when you get pregnant), wouldn't it be hypocritical to say that God isn't behind the abortion as well? We, as humans, cannot say that God is behind everything...well...except abortions.

I, for one, believe that God takes care of the bigger picture and we are left to our devices to live life out.
What's so sad is you reduce God to nothing more than a CEO and humanity is his workforce. God does nothing but good. Satan does nothing but bad. What we have as humans is free will and that's what Satan uses to cause the chaos in this world like abortion.

And I'm sorry...but that's just so very convenient that you are the poster-child for cases of gross obstentrical malpractice that would make it seem that it is ever-so-often that an MD would tell a mother that they were going to have a monster only to find out that it was the healthiest child in the world. I applaud KC for coming out with what must have been a horrendous situation but for you to claim equal devastation from the 180 degree perspective is awfully coincidental. Not saying it was fabricated...just that it was convenient.
I could care less if you believe what I have to say or not. See...I have the truth on my side and I don't have to prove anything to you. Convenient or not the truth is the truth.

Through all of this debate we forget about all of the kids that live in squalor b/c their mother would not give them up for adoption...or all of the millions of adoption cases that don't go well. It isn't as simple as "she should have kept her legs closed" and it isn't as simple as adoption. Why don't we ask the millions of kids that are stuck in an abominable system if they truly were happy that the nazis on the right wing murdered people from the abortion clinic and forced them to be doomed to a life in hell. And speaking of...why can we kill people at an abortion clinic and that is fine but the abortion is not?

Millions of adoption cases that don't go well? Surely you have hard numbers to back up your acusation? It is as simple as keeping your legs closed and having the morality to say no and it is as simple as adoption. That's the problem with the DemoLibs is when it comes to issues they can't defend with intelligence they have to reach into the recesses of their bowels to pull out things make the issue "complicated" in their feeble mind.
 
What's so sad is you reduce God to nothing more than a CEO and humanity is his workforce. God does nothing but good. Satan does nothing but bad. What we have as humans is free will and that's what Satan uses to cause the chaos in this world like abortion.
I could care less if you believe what I have to say or not. See...I have the truth on my side and I don't have to prove anything to you. Convenient or not the truth is the truth.
Millions of adoption cases that don't go well? Surely you have hard numbers to back up your acusation? It is as simple as keeping your legs closed and having the morality to say no and it is as simple as adoption. That's the problem with the DemoLibs is when it comes to issues they can't defend with intelligence they have to reach into the recesses of their bowels to pull out things make the issue "complicated" in their feeble mind.
Aeroman. In retrospect, I wish my wife would have kept her legs closed so that God couldn't have blessed me with a monster.

Your flippant "keep your legs closed" comments totally piss me off. Have you taught your SON to respect a womans right to keep her legs closed for him? Because I'll betcha that Christian hormones call out just as loudly as "demolibs" hormones. Or have you taught your son to just screw her because it's her problem if she can't "keep her legs closed".
 
Aeroman. In retrospect, I wish my wife would have kept her legs closed so that God couldn't have blessed me with a monster.

Your flippant "keep your legs closed" comments totally piss me off. Have you taught your SON to respect a womans right to keep her legs closed for him? Because I'll betcha that Christian hormones call out just as loudly as "demolibs" hormones. Or have you taught your son to just screw her because it's her problem if she can't "keep her legs closed".

My kids are very well adjusted Christian children brought up in the church and very active in it. They are tempted daily by the evil that is present in this world just as anyone is. Are they perfect? Hell no, there was only one perfect person that lived on this earth and he was crucified on a cross for my sins. My kids talk about the temptations in their lives and we talk about how to overcome them. He'll grow up to be a fine husband and father one day and when he does he'll pass those morals on to his children. My kids respect a woman and the women they associate with do not have a problem keeping their legs closed. See, they've been raised to know it's a given that you do not cross that line. Do their hormones rage? Hell yeah they do. They're kids but they know they aren't ready to make an adult decision. Have you taught YOUR DAUGHTERS the same thing?
 
Looks like this thread has pretty much gone down the toilet. I start one thread about a cool DC3 and some pin heads have to bring union garbage into it, now in this thread religious dogma comes in and lays a big fat turd right in the middle.
 
I can tell you what my stance is, because I've lived that exact situation.
That is so sad that you had to experience this. I pray that you and your wife had the strength to weather this situation. I can't even imagine how much that hurt.
 
Looks like this thread has pretty much gone down the toilet. I start one thread about a cool DC3 and some pin heads have to bring union garbage into it, now in this thread religious dogma comes in and lays a big fat turd right in the middle.
Yes, but you got the pot boiling very nicely. Watching the righties melt down to the point that they qoute Newt Gingrich as a moral authority, along with numerous other absurdities, has been very entertaining. They are extremely excercised now that it looks like some dogma is being run over by some karma. You make very reasonable, well-structured arguments, they are just wasted on some folks...

BTW,

I just sent an e-mail begging Dennis Hastert not to resign under any circumstances. He MUST stand fast like a stone wall when his party, the political needs of which rank above basic human decency and all other national priorities, needs him the most. :lol:
 
Looks like this thread has pretty much gone down the toilet. I start one thread about a cool DC3 and some pin heads have to bring union garbage into it, now in this thread religious dogma comes in and lays a big fat turd right in the middle.


It is sad that the country is being run by this kindergarten mentality...the likes of which treat soldiers' lives like toy soldiers and then come out to debate the morality of life and death. Unintelligent hypocracy.

KC- Thanks for being genuine and telling a difficult story. Ignore the facists that haven't graduated their mentality from the kindergarten yet. They can't comprehend real issues and real consequences...unless they are told to through a talking point.
 
CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE CHATS WERE PAGE 'PRANK GONE AWRY'
**Update**

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, said he goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.

The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the investigation.

The prank scenario only applies to the Edmund IM sessions and does not necessarily apply to any other exchanges between the former congressman and others.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/e-a-hanks/th...ge_b_31061.html

Fox News labeled Congressman Mark Foley as a Democrat when he is, in fact, a Republican representative of Florida and has once more knowingly added to the groundswell of dishonesty . During the O'Reilly Factor, the graphic at the bottom of the screen read "Mark Foley (D-FL)" three separate times. The show is not broadcast live - it's pre-taped.

When the show was repeated on air, there was no correction. Rather, there was no label at all. At the time of this writing, Fox News has not made any comment. ....
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/e-a-hanks/th...ge_b_31061.html

Fox News labeled Congressman Mark Foley as a Democrat when he is, in fact, a Republican representative of Florida and has once more knowingly added to the groundswell of dishonesty . During the O'Reilly Factor, the graphic at the bottom of the screen read "Mark Foley (D-FL)" three separate times. The show is not broadcast live - it's pre-taped.

When the show was repeated on air, there was no correction. Rather, there was no label at all. At the time of this writing, Fox News has not made any comment. ....
 
I would really like to believe that was an honest mistake but given their republican bent, I have a hard time wraping my mind around that.
 

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