28yrsnojob
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Anyone know if it is true that the company is laying off IAM and CWA in phl and
other cities
other cities
Layoffs
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robbedagain
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i havent heard anything yet as to layoffs however the iam employees in phll other cities are receiving the packets with only two choices----go to mda or say bye bye to usairways. a disgusting move by this inept mgmt team who cant get things done by the contract as they are suppose to do
WestCoastGuy
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- Jun 27, 2004
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Couple days ago somebody posted a Message Titled CWA FURLOUGHS.... but I think it was just a bogus posting. talked about layoffs system wide. I asked my manager yesterday if he got anything and he said no..nothing from the company about layoffs yet
repeet
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Lest we forget.
A contract that has two rounds of concessions already incorporated into it.
And not only can they not get the job done with it. It appears offensive for them to try.
A contract that has two rounds of concessions already incorporated into it.
And not only can they not get the job done with it. It appears offensive for them to try.
wings396
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All of this is due to the MDA operation. Mainline people have been working the the MDA flights for Mainline wages in PHL. Now they will have to become MDA employees making top rate of $14 an hour. I have always said the MDA contract was meant for the separate operation in the Hubs and larger stations, since they couldn't classify them as Mainline Express workers.
WestCoastGuy
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Sounds like the company wants to make as many cities MDA and Express as possible. The folks that got bumped invol over to MDA.....does that mean they dont touch a mainline airplane or work mainline ATO? Ive never seen any of the MDA planes, but it seems to me, regardless of the size, a jet is a jet and it says USAirways on it. Wouldnt it be more productive to have those agents work both mainline and MDA?700UW said:
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28yrsnojob
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:down: The news media will probably have to find out whats going on because
the company sure is not going to say anything.We will probably find out whats going on in the usa today or the NY Times.
the company sure is not going to say anything.We will probably find out whats going on in the usa today or the NY Times.
RedOne
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Question for someone who received a "packet". IF bye, bye chosen is severance pay part of the deal?robbedagain said:
WestCoastGuy
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If so..then that would be better than a "buyout". Get to collect Unemployement benefits, plus the severance pay.RedOne said:
This is directly from the CWA PHL Local website... its not bogus
July 27
The packets started coming out today..dates are: full time up to Aug 88 and part time up to Apr 5, 99. The packets were released at 10:30am today, and will be available all day tomorrow as well.
Good News…as hard as the co. tried not to (making extra payments to Gov’t loan), they still posted a profit of $34,000,000.00 That’s right 34 million…
Since we are being compared to America West, let’s look at 1 more comparison: We are currently 3 times the size of America West, but posted 7 times the profit…Hmmm
Great News?..Not if you ask CEO Lakefield, who calls attention to possible year end losses, wonder why he’s not excited that we finally made money, oh yeah..the negotiations. Jet Blue’s, Air Trans, and Southwest’s earnings were all down below forecast, and ours went up…I can see why he’s upset.
Speaking of negotiations we met with Al Hemmenway today with a pocket full of cost saving ideas, none of which he had the slightest interest in.
The co’s latest plans are;
Wages in the $13.50 range, savings per full timer of $14,688 per year
1.5 days earned per year toward vacation and sick = 2 weeks plus 4 sick days
Contract out any job that would save them money
Fly as many mainline flts into express cities as they want (limit is 2 now)
We do not consider this negotiating in good faith as they are simply telling us this is what we will do. This will not go to vote!
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July 26, 2004
On Fri evening, we were advise that there was to be a layoff, with packets coming out Monday, We got the best handle on the numbers we could. Every time we turned around, things were changing, as we tried to clarify all the info over a weekend, not an easy task.
On Saturday, I tried to meat with as many people as I could at the airport, and on Sunday I did get over to Transatlantic and baggage claim, Sorry “F†terminal, I just couldn’t get over there in the time allotted.
As most of you know, we were given preliminary numbers, as well as preliminary info, all of which is still up in the air because I just spent 8 hours at the airport on Monday to assist with info for our members during the delivery of packets. We handed out none. Seems they were in such a hurry to lay us off, they hadn’t quite finished the MDA package negotiations. Carol will be there Tuesday AM to assist if the packets do get out. We could not put out packets that did not have clear and concise information, and expect you to make such important decisions. Do we know they will be ready Tuesday AM, NO…we will have to wait and see, but we were promised they won’t be handed out until they are complete.
As for details, remember, these can change by the minute.
1. We are expecting to see full time packets up to around August of ‘88
2. There are currently 25 open lines in part time (newly created)
3. There are around 73 full time packets going out, and 47 part time packets
4. We currently have about 220 full time agents, to be reduced by 73 to around 147
5. We currently have about 170 part-time agents, to be increased by 25 to 195
6. We will suffer a net loss in the neighborhood of 50 employees
7. The packets will be due back Mon, Aug 2, and results are due Mon, Aug 9
8. As of now, we are told that the gate scanners MAY not be ready by Sep. 13
9. The packet specifies dates and numbers can change due to operational need (scanners)
10. All areas of this packet mirror past packets, with the exception of MDA as a choice.
11. You still get Severance, 1 week pay for each year worked, capped at 15 for full time, 10 for part time even if you were to go to MDA, that is still a separation from USAirways
12. We are being told that there is a 13 week extension in unemployment for airline employees, this needs to be confirmed thru unemployment
13. We do not see a problem with getting unemployment if you turn down a job at MDA, but this needs to be confirmed thru unemployment, but it should be no different than turning down part-time and still collecting.
14. MDA wages top out at 13.50/hr, but if you have less than 14 years,(their top-out) you would slide into their wage scale
15. MDA benefits cost around the same as ours now, but you will be making significantly less money to pay for them, and they will cover much less, your out of pocket expenses will go up, read the benefits portion of the packet carefully
We hope this info helps, please contact the unemployment office with specific questions, if you have questions not answered her, I will be in the union hall Tuesday 610-583-2260 and at the airport for awhile Tuesday, and I will be at the airport most of the day Wed. where they are handing out packets. Carol will be at the airport all day Tuesday.
July 27
The packets started coming out today..dates are: full time up to Aug 88 and part time up to Apr 5, 99. The packets were released at 10:30am today, and will be available all day tomorrow as well.
Good News…as hard as the co. tried not to (making extra payments to Gov’t loan), they still posted a profit of $34,000,000.00 That’s right 34 million…
Since we are being compared to America West, let’s look at 1 more comparison: We are currently 3 times the size of America West, but posted 7 times the profit…Hmmm
Great News?..Not if you ask CEO Lakefield, who calls attention to possible year end losses, wonder why he’s not excited that we finally made money, oh yeah..the negotiations. Jet Blue’s, Air Trans, and Southwest’s earnings were all down below forecast, and ours went up…I can see why he’s upset.
Speaking of negotiations we met with Al Hemmenway today with a pocket full of cost saving ideas, none of which he had the slightest interest in.
The co’s latest plans are;
Wages in the $13.50 range, savings per full timer of $14,688 per year
1.5 days earned per year toward vacation and sick = 2 weeks plus 4 sick days
Contract out any job that would save them money
Fly as many mainline flts into express cities as they want (limit is 2 now)
We do not consider this negotiating in good faith as they are simply telling us this is what we will do. This will not go to vote!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
July 26, 2004
On Fri evening, we were advise that there was to be a layoff, with packets coming out Monday, We got the best handle on the numbers we could. Every time we turned around, things were changing, as we tried to clarify all the info over a weekend, not an easy task.
On Saturday, I tried to meat with as many people as I could at the airport, and on Sunday I did get over to Transatlantic and baggage claim, Sorry “F†terminal, I just couldn’t get over there in the time allotted.
As most of you know, we were given preliminary numbers, as well as preliminary info, all of which is still up in the air because I just spent 8 hours at the airport on Monday to assist with info for our members during the delivery of packets. We handed out none. Seems they were in such a hurry to lay us off, they hadn’t quite finished the MDA package negotiations. Carol will be there Tuesday AM to assist if the packets do get out. We could not put out packets that did not have clear and concise information, and expect you to make such important decisions. Do we know they will be ready Tuesday AM, NO…we will have to wait and see, but we were promised they won’t be handed out until they are complete.
As for details, remember, these can change by the minute.
1. We are expecting to see full time packets up to around August of ‘88
2. There are currently 25 open lines in part time (newly created)
3. There are around 73 full time packets going out, and 47 part time packets
4. We currently have about 220 full time agents, to be reduced by 73 to around 147
5. We currently have about 170 part-time agents, to be increased by 25 to 195
6. We will suffer a net loss in the neighborhood of 50 employees
7. The packets will be due back Mon, Aug 2, and results are due Mon, Aug 9
8. As of now, we are told that the gate scanners MAY not be ready by Sep. 13
9. The packet specifies dates and numbers can change due to operational need (scanners)
10. All areas of this packet mirror past packets, with the exception of MDA as a choice.
11. You still get Severance, 1 week pay for each year worked, capped at 15 for full time, 10 for part time even if you were to go to MDA, that is still a separation from USAirways
12. We are being told that there is a 13 week extension in unemployment for airline employees, this needs to be confirmed thru unemployment
13. We do not see a problem with getting unemployment if you turn down a job at MDA, but this needs to be confirmed thru unemployment, but it should be no different than turning down part-time and still collecting.
14. MDA wages top out at 13.50/hr, but if you have less than 14 years,(their top-out) you would slide into their wage scale
15. MDA benefits cost around the same as ours now, but you will be making significantly less money to pay for them, and they will cover much less, your out of pocket expenses will go up, read the benefits portion of the packet carefully
We hope this info helps, please contact the unemployment office with specific questions, if you have questions not answered her, I will be in the union hall Tuesday 610-583-2260 and at the airport for awhile Tuesday, and I will be at the airport most of the day Wed. where they are handing out packets. Carol will be at the airport all day Tuesday.
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After the debacle I witnessed on Tuesday night, this company has the bright idea to get rid of more folks at PHL. They need all the help they can get. If I don't recall it was Dave who said on his last videocast that we were going to "fix" the PHL problem, and part of that fix was adding people both outside and inside. Looks like the new regime feels a different way.
