JUSTICE DEPT SUES TO BLOCK US/AA MERGER

[Barfbag]

Without a merger YOUR jobs will be put in jeopardy .. Are you going to let your fellow employee's that you've worked with for 20 years go to the street ?

Are you going to take increased pay cuts that will have to result due to the lowered future CASM's ?

Are you going to sit there and just take it ? OR are you going to fight back !!!

I say we FIGHT BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too late to fight back, you should have contacted your union back during the PATCO - Reagan Days -

For AA too many big mergers been approved when the airline industry was on the ropes, and there was a sense that something had to be done to save the industry. Now years later airlines are running leaner and meaner, slashing payrolls and amenities to boot, and making $$$. The voting public is crying and the airlines are sneering at them with increased fees and decrease services.

The people have spoken... Back to the drawing board...

 

[eolesen]

Are you going to sit there and just take it ? OR are you going to fight back !!!

I say we FIGHT BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh, good luck with that. What exactly do you have to fight with? Some spiffy chants, a giant inflateable rat and a couple of picket signs?

There's a saying I like to quote is situations like this... He with the most data wins.

The laws on antitrust are pretty clear, and so are the regulations which are supposed to prevent monopolies and oligopolies. DOJ seems to have the data to back up their arguments, and now they also have public statements from the proposed new leadership team of the combined airline.....

What arguments can you make to say that prices won't rise? You already pointed out that not going forward with a merger is going to put pressure on both US and AA to lower their respective CASMs, which implies y'all expected higher RASM as a benefit of the merger.

It will be interesting to see how Judge Lane responds. DOJ clearly has standing, and their objections won't be ignored without due process.

DOJ blocked the merger of T-Mobile and AT&T under similar grounds.

The only way the airlines can get around the DOJ is to address the concerns so that they're no longer in violation, and that's really not practical short of selling off large portions of the combined company to someone else other than WN, DL, or UA....

 

[700UW]

Freedom is the same guy who voted for the money at US on the ramp that got hundreds of his coworkers laid-off as their jobs were outsourced, and he was warned what would happen.

 

[xUT]

Yep, the Federal Government wants deregulation which has put many out of business, and now they want to regulate when those going under try to survive. Can it really be a hybrid form of government and survive? How ridiculous can the law makers be?

Airlines, most regulated/deregulated business in the US.
B) xUT

 

[will fix for food]

We cannot allow the government to threaten our job security ... we must fight them ... Every single US Airways and American Airlines employee's future is now at stake , along with that of your families ...

Uh oh. Better take Parker's keys away from him.

 

[will fix for food]

Without a merger YOUR jobs will be put in jeopardy .. Are you going to let your fellow employee's that you've worked with for 20 years go to the street ?

Are you going to take increased pay cuts that will have to result due to the lowered future CASM's ?

Are you going to sit there and just take it ? OR are you going to fight back !!!

I say we FIGHT BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you kidding me? Kirby is already after us for more concessions.

 

[FWAAA]

So AA agrees to freeze the pensions instead of terminating them, which will cost AA billions of extra dollars well into the future, and this is the thanks they get? IMO, it's time to file a new 1113 motion and terminate those pensions.

 

[freedom]

Uh, good luck with that. What exactly do you have to fight with? Some spiffy chants, a giant inflateable rat and a couple of picket signs?

There's a saying I like to quote is situations like this... He with the most data wins.

The laws on antitrust are pretty clear, and so are the regulations which are supposed to prevent monopolies and oligopolies. DOJ seems to have the data to back up their arguments, and now they also have public statements from the proposed new leadership team of the combined airline.....

What arguments can you make to say that prices won't rise? You already pointed out that not going forward with a merger is going to put pressure on both US and AA to lower their respective CASMs, which implies y'all expected higher RASM as a benefit of the merger.

It will be interesting to see how Judge Lane responds. DOJ clearly has standing, and their objections won't be ignored without due process.

DOJ blocked the merger of T-Mobile and AT&T under similar grounds.

The only way the airlines can get around the DOJ is to address the concerns so that they're no longer in violation, and that's really not practical short of selling off large portions of the combined company to someone else other than WN, DL, or UA....

Are you kidding me the government is INCREDIBLY weak right now .....

1 in 7 Americans on food stamps ...

85 BILLION dollars a month going to wall street just to keep asset prices up ....

Illegal immigrants queued up by the MILLIONS to try and break our nation ....

the government is WEAK , and with enough force from people who aren't content to simply sit at home and watch TV in their lazyboys , it CAN be broken ...

 

[swamt]

Just heard from the conference call that the DOJ is saying "we strongly disapprove of merger even if the parties are willing to carve out some concessions". It really sounds to me that the DOJ is not going to allow the merger to go thru.

 

[Barfbag]

Time to get Crandall back in the game...

Keep AA - AA

The last blue-blood legacy still stands..

 

[BigMac]

Just heard from the conference call that the DOJ is saying "we strongly disapprove of merger even if the parties are willing to carve out some concessions". It really sounds to me that the DOJ is not going to allow the merger to go thru.

Good. I must be the 1% that doesn't want the merge.

 

[MCI transplant]

Hey! this is "Holder's, and Obama's DOJ! ---------You voted for him, I didn't! Now we all have to live with it!

 

[freedom]

Hey! this is "Holder's, and Obama's DOJ! ---------You voted for him, I didn't! Now we all have to live with it!

do we ?

you know in other countries , take south Africa for example , the workers there actually have the backbone to oppose their own government , the miners strike a few years ago were horribly violent , but it brought world wide attention and forced their government to sit down at the table ...

I'm not advocating violence , I'm just trying to illustrate that in MANY countries , when the workers actually speak up and take to the streets instead of passively just going along with it , things tend to work out for those who stand up for themselves .

 

[robbedagain]

well if they do not allow it to happen whose to say that each of the airlines will continue to raise the fees the fuel goes up losses start to pile up then in the end it would be like well doj you rejected our merger you let dl/nw co/ua and fl/wn merge fees still went up and they will still go up

 

[swamt]

DOJ just announced that settlements from the airlines will not change blocking the merger. It really does sound like the merger is doomed. Unless AA/US decide to divest a HUGE amount of flights, routes and slots at certain airports to better compete rather than being over dominate.