Judge Forces Union Accountability

[Birdman]

WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Thursday upheld a new Labor Department regulation requiring unions to disclose more details about their finances but she delayed the effective date to July 1.

Foxnews.com

Its about time the justice system ruled in favor of a workers right to hold it's union accountable. The AFL-CIO claimed to promote "The Working Man" while at the same time denied them the right to know where their compulsary dues were spent. This should change the sleeping habits of a lot of local and national union treasurers. I predict a mass exodus through retirement and lengthy jail sentences. My agency fee might just suddenly change as well. How about it Mr. Dorrigan?
Rob Osteen

 

[Checking it Out]

Amfa's best, the fallout will affect all and all the amfa supporters have to say is we support the decision.

Another Me First Association. or better yet

Airlines Management Fraternal Association.

If I were you Osteen you better wait and see the damage this will cause.

 

[TWU informer]

Yep, more fear from the cowards.

Reporting the truth in spending is going to cause "damage".

How can the honest reporting of something, cause more damage than the hidden expenditure has already done?

In my life, the honest reporting of something never has done as much damage as the act being reported.

Please explain?

 

[Birdman]

CIO, does "taxation without representation" ring a bell??? Your comments are truly mind boggling. If I had to guess I would say the vast majority of union members will applaud this new higher level of financial accountability. If not for rampant union corruption there would have been no need for such a regulation. Is there no common sense on your planet??

 

[Birdman]

Here's a couple of hundred reasons why the DOT reacted.

http://www.nlpc.org/ucu.asp

 

[PDiddyQuill]

*knock knock....anyone even close to being home here?* Does anyone besides the Quills see this as an attack to all unions? Regardless of sexual preference? This is actually an old issue, but nice post and worth a bit of chewing on...can you spell REPUBLICAN?

 

[Buck]

Yes I can spell Republican, but I bet you can spell Socialists.

 

[Birdman]

Steve, why is everything always political with you guy's? I'm actually registered as a Democrat. Big deal! What you call attack I call being held responsible. If not for the specific reporting requirements of the 10k report we would have never exposed the deceit that led to Carty's demise. According to you then the 10k is an attack on corporations. Give me a break! CIO, why is this an AMFA issue with you anyway. It's just my PERSONAL OPINION. So with you ALL union members who think this a good idea are AMFA supporters? Just step up to the plate and give details on "damage and fallout". I listen to reason.

 

[Raptor]

I agree with the department of labor forcing all Unions to disclose their financial expendatures, Unions should be accountable, you got something to hide CIO, does the TWU have something to hide ? Well not anymore it's time to open those books up to the Government boys and right now.

The Government finally did something right.

I wonder how old Gephardt is doing, oh never mind I remember he was last seen crying on national TV cause no body wants him except the TWU, poor worthless #$@$@$ good riddance.

What loser will the TWU back next I just can't wait to see.

 

[twuer]

I agree with the department of labor forcing all Unions to disclose their financial expendatures, Unions should be accountable, you got something to hide CIO, does the TWU have something to hide ? Well not anymore it's time to open those books up to the Government boys and right now.

The Government finally did something right.

I wonder how old Gephardt is doing, oh never mind I remember he was last seen crying on national TV cause no body wants him except the TWU, poor worthless #$@$@$ good riddance.

What loser will the TWU back next I just can't wait to see.

I wonder how old Gephardt is doing, oh never mind I remember he was last seen crying on national TV cause no body wants him except the TWU, poor worthless #$@$@$ good riddance.

Raptor, Gephardt has served "Labor" well. 100% (I believe) voting FOR labor.

You against that too???

 

[TWU informer]

I will agree that when it comes to labor issues and voting records.

Gephardt was the best candidate.

Interesting enough, the outcome of the endorsement and failure of the campaign has to leave us wondering about the so-called political power that Lesperance and Wells were telling us all about at the Spet. 12th AMFA info meeting in Tulsa.

The facts do not match up with the rhetoric.

 

[j7915]

I will agree that when it comes to labor issues and voting records.

Gephardt was the best candidate.

Interesting enough, the outcome of the endorsement and failure of the campaign has to leave us wondering about the so-called political power that Lesperance and Wells were telling us all about at the Spet. 12th AMFA info meeting in Tulsa.

The facts do not match up with the rhetoric.

As many a good TWU member has told me, they won't stand for the union telling them how to vote. They confused suggestion with being told how to vote.

Whether Gephardt could have won is a different issue.

The Union accountibility law is designed to cause aggravation to unions, the expenditure threshhold is somewhere around $5000. Now if Companies were required to open up their books on political contributions, then there would be parity. But if they did that, there probably would be a threshhold as to how many shares one has to hold in order to challenge any accounting.

Does anyone really belief that all those political contribuitions by executives are not made good in the form of bonuses and other perks?

Now maybe AMFA will also, or finally, have to detail their dealings with the McKormick Group.

 

[twuer]

I will agree that when it comes to labor issues and voting records.

Gephardt was the best candidate.

Interesting enough, the outcome of the endorsement and failure of the campaign has to leave us wondering about the so-called political power that Lesperance and Wells were telling us all about at the Spet. 12th AMFA info meeting in Tulsa.

The facts do not match up with the rhetoric.

Now see Informer, we CAN agree on things!! Wanna kiss and make up??!! :wub:

Nah, maybe not.

The TWU does have strong political influence along with the AFL-CIO but this is a primary election, not all the AFL-CIO unions are obligated to support the same candidate. All independant thinkers if you will. Once the primaries have determined who will gain the nomination then all of the AFL-CIO affiliated unions will endorse the candidate who we feel has the best chance to win the White House. The fact that the AFL-CIO unions are 13 million members strong is a significant voice in choosing which candidate has the best chance to win and which candidate will support our labor interests.

No one organizatoin in and of itself has the power to get the president elected by themselves. But if you give up the AFL-CIO, you give up the fight to support labor and working people.

What kind of influence does AMFA have??? NONE!!!

 

[TWU informer]

It appears that right now AMFA has the influence of 8 (eight) Airline Mechanic and Related work groups and 54% of AA. And it appears to be a large group that no longer believes the AFL-CIO is important or worthy of support.

On one hand, you take credit for membership size of the AFL-CIO, and then you use union names or monikers such as TWU, AFL-CIO, ect. as political power. Is it the membership or the name of the union that we should use to measure strength?

It is a proven fact that nearly 40% of the union MEMBERSHIP is registered as Republican or Conservatives.

You refuse to accept what the politicians have already learned. And that is when your membership doesn't trust or follow the leadership, then the ballot box counting of union members does not match the political power rhetoric of the leadership. Thus, the politician is willing to take your campaign money, but does not fear your threats, nor will he/she stand with you on big issues once elected.


It is only the entrenched politically brainwashed union member that still believes organized labor carries a big political stick. We claim to be the poor, and then try win a game of who has the most money against the rich. Most of us are now ready to take our fight outside the political arena and influence with our labor instead of a dollar. But our leadership still wants to pander to the politicians and claim any movement within thier own ranks to have fair reporting, and accountable spending, is anti-labor.

The AFL-CIO should be completely abolished and replaced with a union member education center that will teach the real reasons organized labor made gains in the past. And it sure as hell wasn't a bunch liquor drinking cowards that believed a politician was their friend and could solve their issues. It was a group of hard core, brave men, who took their fight to the street by withholding their labor and disrupting the direct movement of commerce.

The AFL-CIO is nothing more than a social club full of boozers and cowards, that give union men the false reliance of "political strength and influence" or "the big lie" if you will, that cause working men NOT to become angered and willing to fight a battle with tools with which we can win. We'll get 'em next time, always applies to political election cycle and that is getting us nowhere fast.

I hate the AFL-CIO so bad, I find myself willing to vote against ANY Candidate they endorse, just to send the message home that they are OUT-of-TOUCH with the membership. Get rid of the weak stooges, and teach men to be men again. The real union history shows how we made gains in the past and why favorable laws were brought forward. At it never was, and never will be by winning a game of "who has the most money" for politics against the rich business man. It was men taking their cause to the street and refusing to take NO for an answer that won any gains worthy of speaking about.

So take your boozers and big money players and flush them. Use the money on educating members about their responsibility and commitment to the cause. Teach them real union history, and bring organized labor back from the dead.

You know the facts, the current policies have decimated organized labors size and participation to unsecure levels. What are down to now? Less than 13% of the work force, and most of that 13% is Government Workers. Give me a break!

AMFA's reduction in mechanic and related headcount doesn't compare anywhere close to the decimation the AFL-CIO policies of the last 50 years has done to organized labor. Why don't you hold the AFL-CIO to the same standard you want to hold AMFA too when it comes to labor headcount reductions?

Well, I need to go take medication to reduce my blood pressure! Typing that diatribe has made me so pissed off, I need a break!

 

[Buck]

What has the AFL-CIO done for the Mechanic Craft and Class of the Airline Industry?

The TWU does have strong political influence along with the AFL-CIO but this is a primary election, not all the AFL-CIO unions are obligated to support the same candidate. All independent thinkers if you will. Once the primaries have determined who will gain the nomination then all of the AFL-CIO affiliated unions will endorse the candidate who we feel has the best chance to win the White House. The fact that the AFL-CIO unions are 13 million members strong is a significant voice in choosing which candidate has the best chance to win and which candidate will support our labor interests.

If labor cannot show cohesiveness in the primaries, where is the strentgh?

Free thinkers within the TWU?

Just what are labors interests?