JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

Ok trying to get it back on topic now after a fun filled exciting weekend full of hijinks and merriment.

Gary Peterson in his last video update made the comment that this “could” be wrapped up this week if the Company is serious about getting it done.

My opinion is it won’t be done and we go into those January dates? So that will put it officially past 2 years since actual talks began.

Who should I blame then? Well who holds the bank accounts? I don’t think it should be any simpler than that. Who holds the bank accounts?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Ok trying to get it back on topic now after a fun filled exciting weekend full of hijinks and merriment.

Gary Peterson in his last video update made the comment that this “could” be wrapped up this week if the Company is serious about getting it done.

My opinion is it won’t be done and we go into those January dates? So that will put it officially past 2 years since actual talks began.

Who should I blame then? Well who holds the bank accounts? I don’t think it should be any simpler than that. Who holds the bank accounts?

You dont understand iam politics and neither does GP. They already got an aip. It moves over lus into a concessionary health care and loosens up part time. Unless sito tosses his district peeps cuz of his own election. That would be interesting.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Ford and Harrison using you again?

And I doubt the TWU would go along with what you claim.

 

[737823]

Ford and Harrison using you again?

And I doubt the TWU would go along with what you claim.

Who is Ford?

Who is Harrison?

Josh

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Who is Ford?

Who is Harrison?

Josh

Who is Josh?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Ford and Harrison using you again?

And I doubt the TWU would go along with what you claim.

Twu is alex. Iam is sito. Thats all that matters. Sito been playing games and stood down for management all year while twu picketed. Arent you 700? If they dont both want to bring a ta out then it wont happen.
After january 20th, sito will know there will be 2 elections.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Who is Ford?

Who is Harrison?

Josh

Thats the lawfirm sito stood down against regarding picketing.

 

[WeAAsles]

You dont understand iam politics and neither does GP. They already got an aip. It moves over lus into a concessionary health care and loosens up part time. Unless sito tosses his district peeps cuz of his own election. That would be interesting.

Dude stop trying to ruin my Morning Coffee.

On your way, shoo.

 

[WeAAsles]

Who is Ford?

Who is Harrison?

Josh

You as well. Go away. Shoo.

 

[737823]

Tim the IAM has never been willing to picket and didn’t do so at USAIR while they neglected your section six and courted LAA. Bob Owens even posted about it:

Well its not like they were going anywhere. IAM pretty much sat on their hands for over a year before they filed to be released, they filed, then what? Nothing. No picketing, not even at the NMB to let it be known they are serious. AMFA filed during similar conditions at NWA, they ended up with the biggest increases ever seen and all mechanics benefitted from that. Yes the recession, 9-11 and BK gave NWA and the other unions the opportunity to make an example of them by setting out to bust AMFA, no matter the cost, before they spread through the rest of the industry, but the fact is that every mechanic in the industry benefitted by what happened at NWA from 1999 through 2001 and to this day we are still better off. Our wages today are higher in absolute dollars (not when adjusted for inflation) than they were prior to 2001 but for many of our coworkers that is not the case such as Fleet service and Stores.

So while I would fault the IBT for other things filing for an election at US when the IAM continues to sit on their hands in negotiations isnt one of them. The IAM claims this will extend negotiations, well, after seeing the crumbs they were asking for, and the fact they were not making progress even with that, taking a little longer to get where you want to be may be a better option than throwing the IAM even more time to get you where you dont really want to be.Why should they be willing to settle for what the UAL guys , who are in negotiations, are getting now? They need a union that will at least try and raise the bar, not just ride the coat tails of United mechanics.

Sadly I still think the filing at US was really more about getting cards at AA. Maybe the IBT should be a little more aggressive at UAL, then they would not have to rely on deception in order to get more mechanics to want to become Teamsters. The thing about deception is eventually the truth comes out, the guys who told the lies will be long gone, telling lies to their next assignment, but we will have to live with the results.

So, while having Rival Unions court members from other unions may not be in the best interests of people who have positions in the Unions that are being raided ,despite what these leaders say, its good for Union members and the labor movement as a whole. It brings accountablity to the unaccountable, but care must be taken if a choice to move is made that you dont get lured into a relationship based on lies, lies from different people are still lies.

Josh

 

[737823]

You as well. Go away. Shoo.

Weez do you still want to meet at Gulfstream?

Josh

 

[cltrat]

There needs to be a face palm emoji on here

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez do you still want to meet at Gulfstream?

Josh

Listen here you flakes and weirdos. Get off my lawn.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Tim the IAM has never been willing to picket and didn’t do so at USAIR while they neglected your section six and courted LAA. Bob Owens even posted about it:



Josh

Wrong during the last Section 6 talks at LUS the IAM Ramp and Mechanic and Related held informational pickets around the system.

IAM-represented workers will conduct informational pickets in five major cities tomorrow.

Washington D.C., March 26, 2014 –IAM mechanic and related, fleet service, maintenance training specialist and stockroom employees will conduct informational picketing on Thursday March 27, 2014 at Charlotte-Douglas International Airport, Boston's Logan Airport, Denver International Airport, Philadelphia International Airport and Phoenix' Sky Harbor Airport, with all five events protesting US Airways’ position that IAM-represented workers at the airline accept second-class status and agree to lower wage rates than other employees at the carrier who perform the same exact work.

Who: IAM–represented mechanic and related, fleet service, maintenance training specialist and stockroom employees at US Airways.

What: Informational picketing.


Where and When:

Charlotte-Douglas International Airport, Charlotte, North Carolina.
Departure (upper) level, all doors.
Thursday March 27, 2014 from 7:30 am-6:00 pm

Boston Logan Airport.
Terminal B, upper level, all doors.
Thursday March 27, 2014 from 12:00 noon-3:00 pm.

Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport
Terminal 4, departure level, doors 21 and 28.
Thursday March 27, 2014 from 8:00 am-5:00 pm

Philadelphia International Airport
Terminal A East, Terminal A, B and C West, departure level all doors.
Thursday March 27, 2014 from 7:00 am-5:00 pm.

Denver International Airport
Terminal Jeppson, level 5 and 6.
Thursday March 27, 2014 from 6:00 am-6:00 pm.

http://www.usaamerger.com/2014/03/27/machinists-to-picket-us-airways-in-five-major-cities/

https://www.goiam.org/news/iam-members-protest-unfair-treatment-by-us-airways/

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim the IAM has never been willing to picket and didn’t do so at USAIR while they neglected your section six and courted LAA. Bob Owens even posted about it:



Josh

Sito gave up all health care and pt language at united, th ed n mcgee, then uge. He really could care less about fleet service. Any ta that comes out will immediately pass.