Is he/she a looker? (US crews and customers)

FM2436

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ktflyhome said:
Also, heard (rumor........) that any F/A who was hired 89 or later is gone Jan. 1st. This came from a person who works in Inflight.
Oh-man-oh-man will that be sad. A few weeks ago I flew US Airways from Salisbury to Las Vegas (connecting in PHL). The F/As (all females) between PHL and LAS were O.L.D. One, who was pushing the drink cart, had thick half rimmed glasses hanging off the end of her nose, a mess of a gray streaked hair-do, and just simply looked dumpy. She was really painful to see during the 5-hour trip. Thank goodness the F/A on both Piedmont flights were much younger than 50 and were pleasing to look at.
 
Let me see, when an O.L.D. f/a saves your a** in an emergency. Do you look at her and say "Boy was she old and dumpy!" How about when a ticket agent reroutes you in bad weather do you say " Boy was she old and dumpy!" Or when an RN or EMT hooks you up to life support do you say "Boy was she old and dumpy" just before you croak?

Next time fly Hooters Air if your looking for just young and sexy. The f/a's at U are there to save your a** not KISS it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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PSA1979 said:
Let me see, when an O.L.D. f/a saves your a** in an emergency. Do you look at her and say "Boy was she old and dumpy!" How about when a ticket agent reroutes you in bad weather do you say " Boy was she old and dumpy!" Or when an RN or EMT hooks you up to life support do you say "Boy was she old and dumpy" just before you croak?

Next time fly Hooters Air if your looking for just young and sexy. The f/a's at U are there to save your a** not KISS it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I freely admit to being a P.I.G.

In the nearly 50-years I have flown as a passenger (I was an "Airline Brat" who's father worked for a current legacy airline right out of WWII and our family flew non-rev frequently) I have only been on one airplane that had declared an emergency, and that was an aborted takeoff on a United DC-8 out of O'Hare. I was maybe 10 and remember it to this day. Since then, and I only fly an average of 10-12 R/T flights a year, I have never been on a flight that has declared any emergency. Lucky maybe, but I attribute that to fine pilot and mechanic skills.

Personally, and you may not believe it, I don’t care what the ticket counter agent and/or the RN or EMT looks like (the RN or EMT is likely to save my life than a F/A). I'd just like to see the F/A who is serving me a drink have a pretty face and nice shape than a F/A who looks like some tired old hag.

First impressions by a infrequent flyer and perception by a frequently flyer are visible everywhere with the airlines. Even to what the Stewardess look like.
 
Well, this tired old hag would just love to treat you to a lap full of bloody mary mix. OOPS did I say that?

Sexism is still alive and well, living in FM2436. The way a person looks doesn't mean squat when it comes to doing a good job. I take pride in the service I give and I have many, many good letters to prove it.

Our industry has had to prove itself over and over. My aunt was a stewardess in the 1950's. I am a flight attendant and thank goodness you don't run our company or any other airline, as we would have a wonderful lawsuit against you for discrimination.
 
FM2436 said:
Thank goodness the F/A on both Piedmont flights were much younger than 50 and were pleasing to look at.
Yes, thank goodness! That must have been quite a terrible experience for you. I am so sorry you had to go through it. I would write U and get my money back, if I were you. I HATE having to look at and be around people over 35, and anyone who is not a perfect 10 in the beauty department should be hidden from view. I was in the grocery store the other day and had a cashier who was only so-so in appearance. Well let me tell you, I marched right up to the store manager and told him how offended I was to be subjected to such an unacceptable situation. It was MOST unpleasant. It is OUTRAGEOUS that some people are not pleasing to look at! And the bank teller I had the other day-- at LEAST 40. Maybe even 45!!! DisGUSting. I can't believe they are letting her still work. I was quite shaken up, having to handle the same bills she just touched. Ick.

All old people (defined as 35 and up) and non-attractive people should not have jobs and should not even be out in public. It's just gross, and not fair to the rest of us who are and will be young and beautiful forever to have to see them. I try to avert my eyes but in a small, enclosed place like an airplane it is sometimes just not possible.

I hope you will get over your traumatic experience. I can certainly sympathize.
 
Hey FM2436,PSA1979,Bear96

What does this have to do with closing PIT???!!!

Hey Bill and Scot I'm watching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I, myself would love to see what the self-proclaimed P. I. G. looks like. I'll bet he is a real looker :rolleyes: It is kinda of telling that the people who judge others soley on their appearance are usually sorely lacking in that department ( among other departments ie. depth of character and tact to say but a few!)
 
PSA1979 said:
Well, this tired old hag would just love to treat you to a lap full of bloody mary mix. OOPS did I say that?

Sexism is still alive and well, living in FM2436. The way a person looks doesn't mean squat when it comes to doing a good job. I take pride in the service I give and I have many, many good letters to prove it.

Our industry has had to prove itself over and over. My aunt was a stewardess in the 1950's. I am a flight attendant and thank goodness you don't run our company or any other airline, as we would have a wonderful lawsuit against you for discrimination.
Personally, I think that senior fa's have every right to be working and i'm glad they're still around...the more experienced, the better. However, there was once incident where I almost changed this viewpoint. I was flying MSY-PIT last March and it was a CLT based crew. The lady who was working the A position was O.L.D. I don't mean age wise, she was reeaaaaaalllllllyyyyy frail. Blondish,gray hair pulled back into a messy bun, thick horn rimmed glasses and she had trouble standing. She couldn't lift liquor kits..I had to open my own champagne. The other f/a had to pull the door closed in MSY and push it open at the gate in PIT. Common sense...She is the kind of O.L.D. that needs to not be working. If I was intent on breaking the cockpit door and she was the only thing in my way, then i'd have an easy time. I'm ashamed to admit this, but I actually had a coordinator in PIT go on the jetway and look her over before letting her flight to EWR leave...
 
Well, if you really want your rocks off, consider flying the following airline:

Naked Air

BTW, there was a thread on the AA board about occupational DOH. IIRC, one had a DOH of 1955 or something like that.
 
FM2436 said:
I freely admit to being a P.I.G.

In the nearly 50-years I have flown as a passenger (I was an "Airline Brat" who's father worked for a current legacy airline right out of WWII and our family flew non-rev frequently) I have only been on one airplane that had declared an emergency, and that was an aborted takeoff on a United DC-8 out of O'Hare. I was maybe 10 and remember it to this day. Since then, and I only fly an average of 10-12 R/T flights a year, I have never been on a flight that has declared any emergency. Lucky maybe, but I attribute that to fine pilot and mechanic skills.

Personally, and you may not believe it, I don’t care what the ticket counter agent and/or the RN or EMT looks like (the RN or EMT is likely to save my life than a F/A). I'd just like to see the F/A who is serving me a drink have a pretty face and nice shape than a F/A who looks like some tired old hag.

First impressions by a infrequent flyer and perception by a frequently flyer are visible everywhere with the airlines. Even to what the Stewardess look like.
One could say that being a USAirways customer places you in the care of the most experienced airline employee group in the nation. From the Pilots in the front to the F/As in the cabin. From the front lines at the counters and gate podiums to the hangars and line maintenance technicians. Even the crew that cleans and services your aircraft will be the most experienced in the industry.

Alas, that experience comes with an age premium, if you will. With any population some age well, some do not. When flying USAirways I have observed "senior" F/A's that are attractive, take pride in their personal appearance and the wearing of the uniform. And those that don't. Let me also say that I am not singling out the F/A's as a group. There are U employees in other departments that are embarrasing to view and do not convey a professional image regardless of size or shape.

Part of the disconnect is that although the U employee groups have tried hard to make the company successful by doing their jobs well on a daily basis, they are still viewed by senior managment as the problem, not the solution. Therefore, few are proud to say "I work for USAirways".

So many don't really care what kind of impression they might make on the customers. All they want is to do the job, whatever their position, collect the check and go home to their loved ones.

What is sad is that even the "cheerleaders" that have supported past/present
cost cutting measures have reached their limit finally. Especially when the substance of the latest "Tansformation Plan" is to dismantle Mainline and turn your job over to MidAtlantic (real U employees with a "soft landing"!!!) or a myriad of code share jets wearing U colors.
 
I have to admit that I want fit, physically secure and able folks as flight attendents. If FA's are going to be certified, I want them to be frequent gym goers and able to toss around whatever or whomever they need to. Senior flight attendents can transition into an ambassador core of customer service agents, or a select few of senior flight service managers. It has nothing to do with what they look like. In fact, I'd like to have a FA core that would be capable of replacing the majority of air marshalls. Not that we would get rid of them, but we REALLY wouldn't know where they were.
 
LOL! This is such an absurd topic! But I have to chime in......

I want a well-trained f/a who gets paid well to do his or her job, irregardless of physical appearence. As long as I get from point A to point B safely, I'm happy.

If the f/a is female and wants to take me out for a drink after the flight, then sure! Why not? If the f/a is male and the offer is the same, I'll politely decline.

The chances of either of those happening to me are slim to none. :p
 

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