I''m voting no, no matter who''s jobs at stake

[cavalier]

Nevermind Wilma, It is to close to Christmas to type the comment I had for you. Have a beautiful life in your new job, those of you who remain with US, God bless you and keep you safe. Like they say "there's one in every crowd" but she has left the fold and I say "Don't let the door hit ya, were the good Lord split ya"
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Why hide behind the season? Let it all hang out, tell us your true colors.

 

[cavalier]

Hey Wilma,
I guess you'd better adjust the dossage on your Prozac! Have a beautiful life! Just glad you and your attitude is employed elsewhere.
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Welcome to political correctness where one dares not express true feelings least you be forced to wear a BIG scarlet letter and forced fed prozac.

To all the people bashing Wilma for her point of view. Please explain why a vote should be held if the only sane vote is a yes vote. Why even have a vote?

 

[cavalier]

Hey Wilma,
I guess you'd better adjust the dossage on your Prozac! Have a beautiful life! Just glad you and your attitude is employed elsewhere.
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Welcome to political correctness where one dares not express true feelings least you be forced to wear a BIG scarlet letter and forced fed prozac.

To all the people bashing Wilma for her point of view. Please explain why a vote should be held if the only sane vote is a yes vote. Why even have a vote?

 

[MCORORES]

Have not heard that agents are getting in trouble for their talk time. Have heard about agents getting in trouble for their call work and adherence time and written up for it. Lets face the truth, call work and adherence are the only thing that we res agents can control. Period. All others are by the luck of draw in regards to the way the call falls. I myself am voting yes. I am one of those who will be leaving Florida and heading to Winston Salem NC. My goal is to see the company survive and see all my fellow friends and co workers who either have gotten furloughed either by choice or not by choice to have something to return to in the next 4 years. The only reason why I will be voting yes is not because of the "package" the company is offering us in return for a yes vote, it is because FINALLY management decides that they also will be in it for the long hall with their concessions...something that should of been done a long time ago.

 

[MCORORES]

Have not heard that agents are getting in trouble for their talk time. Have heard about agents getting in trouble for their call work and adherence time and written up for it. Lets face the truth, call work and adherence are the only thing that we res agents can control. Period. All others are by the luck of draw in regards to the way the call falls. I myself am voting yes. I am one of those who will be leaving Florida and heading to Winston Salem NC. My goal is to see the company survive and see all my fellow friends and co workers who either have gotten furloughed either by choice or not by choice to have something to return to in the next 4 years. The only reason why I will be voting yes is not because of the "package" the company is offering us in return for a yes vote, it is because FINALLY management decides that they also will be in it for the long hall with their concessions...something that should of been done a long time ago.

 

[Cohiba]

You're not in Wilma's position, so your "vote" doesn't count! By the way, Why do you care what Wilma votes?


and for the record : I really don't care if you like me.

 

[Cohiba]

You're not in Wilma's position, so your "vote" doesn't count! By the way, Why do you care what Wilma votes?


and for the record : I really don't care if you like me.

 

[Cohiba]

Nevermind Wilma, It is to close to Christmas to type the comment I had for you. Have a beautiful life in your new job, those of you who remain with US, God bless you and keep you safe. Like they say "there's one in every crowd" but she has left the fold and I say "Don't let the door hit ya, were the good Lord split ya"



By the way...
Wilma didn't leave the fold, Wilma was chased from the fold.

(and this comment from a person who claims to care so much about the employees at US Airways)

 

[Cohiba]

Nevermind Wilma, It is to close to Christmas to type the comment I had for you. Have a beautiful life in your new job, those of you who remain with US, God bless you and keep you safe. Like they say "there's one in every crowd" but she has left the fold and I say "Don't let the door hit ya, were the good Lord split ya"



By the way...
Wilma didn't leave the fold, Wilma was chased from the fold.

(and this comment from a person who claims to care so much about the employees at US Airways)

 

[Cohiba]

[blockquote]
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On 12/22/2002 4:59:03 PM PineyBob wrote:

Because frankly sir, her no vote could effect my life in a negative way! US Airways closing it's doors effects my liesure travel plans to Europe with my Girlfriend this summer. US's failure means I have to drive to either PHL or EWR, instead of the short trip down the GSP to ACY! Also the route structure is such that it is a perfect fit for my business and liesure travel requirements. US got my business by addressing my personal requirements. They keep it despite MR. Baldanza because of the extremely cordial, knowledgable, skilled and friendly staff I deal with when I fly.

NEWS FLASH! It's all about ME! I earn the right to choose because I pay for it. Despite all of the bad news I stick with US and I voice my opinions over issues that could affect ME!

I do understand she is upset! Who wouldn't be? I wish her well, I just could never out of anger or a sense of social justice cast a vote that would potentially jeopardize someones job! Especially at a place I no longer worked!
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BINGO !

Is is all about you...

So can't the employees at US Airways be all about themselves? Wilma didn't get to choose to drive to PHL or ACY, she got the choice to dive to UNEMPLOYMENT ! She does however get to choose and vote her true feelings. You don't care about the people here, let them care for themselves!

 

[Cohiba]

[blockquote]
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On 12/22/2002 4:59:03 PM PineyBob wrote:

Because frankly sir, her no vote could effect my life in a negative way! US Airways closing it's doors effects my liesure travel plans to Europe with my Girlfriend this summer. US's failure means I have to drive to either PHL or EWR, instead of the short trip down the GSP to ACY! Also the route structure is such that it is a perfect fit for my business and liesure travel requirements. US got my business by addressing my personal requirements. They keep it despite MR. Baldanza because of the extremely cordial, knowledgable, skilled and friendly staff I deal with when I fly.

NEWS FLASH! It's all about ME! I earn the right to choose because I pay for it. Despite all of the bad news I stick with US and I voice my opinions over issues that could affect ME!

I do understand she is upset! Who wouldn't be? I wish her well, I just could never out of anger or a sense of social justice cast a vote that would potentially jeopardize someones job! Especially at a place I no longer worked!
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[/blockquote]


BINGO !

Is is all about you...

So can't the employees at US Airways be all about themselves? Wilma didn't get to choose to drive to PHL or ACY, she got the choice to dive to UNEMPLOYMENT ! She does however get to choose and vote her true feelings. You don't care about the people here, let them care for themselves!

 

[Cohiba]

AMEN Cavalier !

 

[Cohiba]

AMEN Cavalier !

 

[RowUnderDCA]

I might regret this post, but....

it seems to me that America suffers from 'special interest-itis!'

This is a syndrome whereby thought, reason and conception regarding issues is automatically put through the "self-interest" wringer, to the exclusion of principle or reason.

There happen to be plenty of principled reasons to vote 'no.' (They all have to do with concepts of social justice and a belief in fighting for the middle class working economy that has taken decades to build and is by no-means guaranteed to the shores of North America. Please, I am not starting a discussion of the merits of this argument or 'class-warfare' or 'socialism' and I am not recommending any kind of vote.)

I get the distinct impression that the 'no' voters sentiment is truly based in a sense of injustice. (I personally, feel uneasy about the path that our economy is taking away from single-income semi-skilled families and towards the manipulations of wealth, but I think that's a lost cause) However, the no voter's sense of injustice doesn't manifest itself in an argument based on principles or the ultimate interests of our children or grand-children because we are so trained to think that people only think about their percieved self-interest. (Mind you, I don't begrudge this. I perfectly understand the needs of a family and the stress this sort of situation can cause.)

It seems to me that individuals in the labor movement in our history made stupid decisions (according to self-interest) based on a sense of fairness. We have all benefitted from the consequences of those decisions (some of which were paid in blood) because we enjoy on capitalist society, with freedom and fairness for a hard days work. Those things need to be tended and protected.

Please do not take my remarks as any kind of suggestion... I wish the best of luck to all of you.

 

[RowUnderDCA]

I might regret this post, but....

it seems to me that America suffers from 'special interest-itis!'

This is a syndrome whereby thought, reason and conception regarding issues is automatically put through the "self-interest" wringer, to the exclusion of principle or reason.

There happen to be plenty of principled reasons to vote 'no.' (They all have to do with concepts of social justice and a belief in fighting for the middle class working economy that has taken decades to build and is by no-means guaranteed to the shores of North America. Please, I am not starting a discussion of the merits of this argument or 'class-warfare' or 'socialism' and I am not recommending any kind of vote.)

I get the distinct impression that the 'no' voters sentiment is truly based in a sense of injustice. (I personally, feel uneasy about the path that our economy is taking away from single-income semi-skilled families and towards the manipulations of wealth, but I think that's a lost cause) However, the no voter's sense of injustice doesn't manifest itself in an argument based on principles or the ultimate interests of our children or grand-children because we are so trained to think that people only think about their percieved self-interest. (Mind you, I don't begrudge this. I perfectly understand the needs of a family and the stress this sort of situation can cause.)

It seems to me that individuals in the labor movement in our history made stupid decisions (according to self-interest) based on a sense of fairness. We have all benefitted from the consequences of those decisions (some of which were paid in blood) because we enjoy on capitalist society, with freedom and fairness for a hard days work. Those things need to be tended and protected.

Please do not take my remarks as any kind of suggestion... I wish the best of luck to all of you.