IAM Pension Fund

737823 said:
$3k/month is a joke. How can anyone even in Charlotte live off that? Even public sector employees have more generous pensions that you conisder $3k/month good speaks more about you and your perspective than me.
Gave away my identity? You seriously think I am Tim because I included "at any rate" in my post? Wow.
Josh
And where and how you choose to live in retirement yes, one can live quite comfortably on 3,000.00 per month especially if that's after any tax liabilities are paid.

Far less overhead in retirement.
 
WeAA...
 
The three thousand was a very rough pre-tax idea of what a 30 year plus US Fleet Service IAMNPF participant could expect to receive for life at retirement, if they were in the fund for the entire 30 years... 
 
The 401k, and social security would be ADDITIONAL monthly income...
 
A smart Member that prepared, could easily get upwards of five or six grand a month using the three legged stool concept...
 
P.S. You would live like a king in places like Costa Rica on that money!
 
I guess josh its easier for a banker like you at jp can survive in a city such as bos  or mia   but I guarantee u this   the cost of living in clt area is hell of a lot cheaper and thus a lot more manageable than you are willing to admit
 
roabilly said:
WeAA...
 
The three thousand was a very rough idea of what a 30 year plus US Fleet Service IAMNPF participant would receive for life at retirement, if they were in the fund for the entire 30 years... 
 
The 401k, and social security would be ADDITIONAL monthly income...
 
A smart Member that prepared, could easily get upwards of five or six grand a month using the three legged stool concept...
 
P.S. You would live like a king in places like Costa Rica on that money!
 
Hebrew Senior Life in Brookline is a good deal more than that for Bubbe.
 
Josh
 
roabilly said:
WeAA...
 
The three thousand was a very rough idea of what a 30 year plus US Fleet Service IAMNPF participant would receive for life at retirement, if they were in the fund for the entire 30 years... 
 
The 401k, and social security would be ADDITIONAL monthly income...
 
A smart Member that prepared, could easily get upwards of five or six grand a month using the three legged stool concept...
 
P.S. You would live like a king in places like Costa Rica on that money!
If they could ever straighten out the crap in Venezuela my choice is made. The ladies there are gorgeous.
 
robbedagain said:
I guess josh its easier for a banker like you at jp can survive in a city such as bos  or mia   but I guarantee u this   the cost of living in clt area is hell of a lot cheaper and thus a lot more manageable than you are willing to admit
 
True but my point its unfair that other public sector unions are collecting annual pensions in the six figure range when you guys are barely getting by (as a result of bankruptcies and concessionary agreements).  I know many here are quick to come to the defense of the public employees but are they really your "brothers and sisters"?
 
Josh
 
WeAAsles said:
If they could ever straighten out the crap in Venezuela my choice is made. The ladies there are gorgeous.
 
Venezuela is awesome.
 
Josh
 
737823 said:
Hebrew Senior Life in Brookline is a good deal more than that for Bubbe.
 
Josh
I doubt that there are any Hasidim Orthodox on this Forum Josh?

Some of us aren't tied to where others expect us to reside and have the entire World to chose from.

Sux to be you I guess?
 
737823 said:
True but my point its unfair that other public sector unions are collecting annual pensions in the six figure range when you guys are barely getting by (as a result of bankruptcies and concessionary agreements).  I know many here are quick to come to the defense of the public employees but are they really your "brothers and sisters"?
 
Josh
Darn. My Mom always wanted me to be a NYC Garbageman. She had such grand dreams for my future. At least I never went into the one field she said "David if you do this I will disown you"

A banker.
 
WeAAsles said:
I doubt that there are any Hasidim Orthodox on this Forum Josh?

Some of us aren't tied to where others expect us to reside and have the entire World to chose from.

Sux to be you I guess?
 
Doesn't suck to be me, only sucks to fly USdbaAA with all the awful changes.  
 
My point is $3000/month is hardly enough to get by.  Unions once prided themselves in providing a solid middle class standard of living with a solid retirement available at the end of ones career.  You all vigorously defend public sector employees "brothers and sisters" with cushy pensions far in excess of what you are offered.  My expectations and perspectives have nothing to do with it, I'm simply pointing out that you all shouldn't think you hit the lotto with IAMNPF like many here seem to believe.
 
Josh
 
737823 said:
Doesn't suck to be me, only sucks to fly USdbaAA with all the awful changes.  
 
My point is $3000/month is hardly enough to get by.  Unions once prided themselves in providing a solid middle class standard of living with a solid retirement available at the end of ones career.  You all vigorously defend public sector employees "brothers and sisters" with cushy pensions far in excess of what you are offered.  My expectations and perspectives have nothing to do with it, I'm simply pointing out that you all shouldn't think you hit the lotto with IAMNPF like many here seem to believe.
 
Josh
I'm sorry but you don't come off as exactly the happiest fellow I've ever read things from. I'm guessing that you have quite a few personal issues that just can't seem to work themselves out for you? I'm usually quite good at guessing things about people and I'm pretty sure I got you pegged.

As another human being I'm very sorry for all the misery you have in your life. Keep praying brother.
 
WeAAsles said:
I'm sorry but you don't come off as exactly the happiest fellow I've ever read things from. I'm guessing that you have quite a few personal issues that just can't seem to work themselves out for you? I'm usually quite good at guessing things about people and I'm pretty sure I got you pegged.

As another human being I'm very sorry for all the misery you have in your life. Keep praying brother.
 
I was at MIA last night, thought about asking for you.  
 
Josh
 
737823 said:
I was at MIA last night, thought about asking for you.  
 
Josh
I'm sorry I just got in from Bombay this morning. I was taking in the sights and one of those nasty little monkeys snatched my sandwich. I decided to cut my trip short.
 
Don't count on your piddly 401-k plans financing anything other than dog food. Stay on a payroll as long as you can, whether its for the airline or anyone else.
 
The country is broke, friends, and the time will come that taxes will be raised greatly to finance the government. That's in addition to the possibility that private IRA's and 401k plan assets may be seized.  Do a little research.  All that money you socked away tax free until retirement, will most likely be taxed at a higher rate when you are ready to start withdrawals, not at a lower tax rate as many were led to believe.  Tax rates have to go up, and they will.  Who's going to pay for this entitlement culture of everyone and his cousin on the government dole that is increasing exponentially each year... the workers paying payroll taxes, the people that saved and start withdrawals, that's who.
 
Plus rampant inflation will make your daily living expenses higher than today, not lower. We face the greatest financial meltdown in history, and it is unavoidable.  The government just loves you avoiding taxes today to build them a pile of cash you will pay them higher taxes on in the future when you need to tap it.
 
If you are younger and healthy,  buy the largest whole life insurance policy you can afford.  Add to it as your financial situation improves. Use it as your own private tax free retirement nest egg... borrow from the built up cash value of the  policy late in life, (you don't have to repay it, it just reduces the death benefit) = tax fee withdrawals, death protection during your career, and a nest egg for you and your heirs, passing tax free, no complicated tax rule required, just your privately financed retirement.
 
The 401k is a con job.  Best advice... stay on a payroll, the American dream of a leisurely retirement is dead and long gone.  Crunch the numbers, do the research!
 
Dilligas said:
Don't count on your piddly 401-k plans financing anything other than dog food. Stay on a payroll as long as you can, whether its for the airline or anyone else.
 
The country is broke, friends, and the time will come that taxes will be raised greatly to finance the government. That's in addition to the possibility that private IRA's and 401k plan assets may be seized.  Do a little research.  All that money you socked away tax free until retirement, will most likely be taxed at a higher rate when you are ready to start withdrawals, not at a lower tax rate as many were led to believe.  Tax rates have to go up, and they will.  Who's going to pay for this entitlement culture of everyone and his cousin on the government dole that is increasing exponentially each year... the workers paying payroll taxes, the people that saved and start withdrawals, that's who.
 
Plus rampant inflation will make your daily living expenses higher than today, not lower. We face the greatest financial meltdown in history, and it is unavoidable.  The government just loves you avoiding taxes today to build them a pile of cash you will pay them higher taxes on in the future when you need to tap it.
 
If you are younger and healthy,  buy the largest whole life insurance policy you can afford.  Add to it as your financial situation improves. Use it as your own private tax free retirement nest egg... borrow from the built up cash value of the  policy late in life, (you don't have to repay it, it just reduces the death benefit) = tax fee withdrawals, death protection during your career, and a nest egg for you and your heirs, passing tax free, no complicated tax rule required, just your privately financed retirement.
 
The 401k is a con job.  Best advice... stay on a payroll, the American dream of a leisurely retirement is dead and long gone.  Crunch the numbers, do the research!
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IZ DRINK HEAVILY!
 

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