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700UW said:You do realize the board of trustees are equal member from IAM appointed and company appointed?
And Roach isnt in charge of the IAMNPF.
That would be Steve Sleigh.
Their website says different.700UW said:You do realize the board of trustees are equal member from IAM appointed and company appointed?
And Roach isnt in charge of the IAMNPF.
That would be Steve Sleigh.
I met the guy while at the crystal palace in Upper Marlboro for a school. I was not even slightly impressed. I was part of the IAM for many years, and tried to change from within. After realizing that was a losing effort, we all decided that the AMFA was the way to go. The airlines and the IAM realized that they were at risk from the AMFA and worked together to break us.737823 said:"IAM members will not be duped into standing with AMFA"
Maybe if Roach actually worked on the ramp at some point in the past 30 years and was in touch with the needs and interests of the membership he would understand. He enjoys a cushy lifestyle on the backs of the hardworking IAM members.
Josh
Glenn Quagmire said:I met the guy while at the crystal palace in Upper Marlboro for a school. I was not even slightly impressed. I was part of the IAM for many years, and tried to change from within. After realizing that was a losing effort, we all decided that the AMFA was the way to go. The airlines and the IAM realized that they were at risk from the AMFA and worked together to break us.
I hope the people at AA rid themselves of the TWU and the IAM. Ask the US Airways Mechanics what they think of the IAM. Look at real tired on here. He speaks the truth about them.
Are you being serious here?WeAAsles said:Can't have everything so just enjoy what you got and let the dust settle.
No, it makes the most sense to scrap the alliance, and then let each group decide for themselves which union will best meet their needs.737823 said:USAIR is the only carrier that the IAM still represents AMTs at and they aren't delivering for them. I think it would make the most sense to scrap the alliance, MX go AMFA and fleet go TWU.
Josh
Actually, I can remember getting called all kinds of things early on. Same with IAM stickers in urinals, etc. Most of those people were long gone by '05, though...737823 said:TRAVIS-
Those were the exact words Roach used in his letter to AMFA at NWA in 2005. He was bitter the AMTs left his scam of a union a few years back. And no AMTs called the rampers and IAM members "ramp apes" and other disparaging terms like Roach charged.
Josh
You realize 700 has been a vocal proponent of the alliance since day one, I thought your position was to stand with him at all times. Glad to see you are taking an objective look at this. It seems the IAM is very enthused about this, TWU much less so. Could it be that the TWU gave away assuming all the dues payers with no representational election and no fight? What was in it for the TWU to agree to this? Why did the IAM walk away in 2001 but this time around they are sticking around? Could it be that in '01 the IAM was in a much stronger position to shoulder the loss of a few thousands dues payers? I guess you forgot the IAM was the union at TWA-they represented everyone except the pilots.Kev3188 said:No, it makes the most sense to scrap the alliance, and then let each group decide for themselves which union will best meet their needs.
Please start paying attention to what I write.737823 said:You realize 700 has been a vocal proponent of the alliance since day one, I thought your position was to stand with him at all times. Glad to see you are taking an objective look at this. It seems the IAM is very enthused about this, TWU much less so. Could it be that the TWU gave away assuming all the dues payers with no representational election and no fight? What was in it for the TWU to agree to this? Why did the IAM walk away in 2001 but this time around they are sticking around? Could it be that in '01 the IAM was in a much stronger position to shoulder the loss of a few thousands dues payers? I guess you forgot the IAM was the union at TWA-they represented everyone except the pilots.
Josh
Agreed. I stand on the side of labor, even though I disagree with a lot of the industrial union mouthpieces.Kev3188 said:Please start paying attention to what I write.
Do I stand with 700? You bet. Do we disagree on this? Yes.
This alliance has left a bad taste w/me since day one.
My bad Josh did not realize you were quoting Roach! lol had me confused...Was not their but I did hear it got a little ugly when the picket lines were getting crossed by good old union members and from what union was that......thats right Roach and the boys...737823 said:TRAVIS-
Those were the exact words Roach used in his letter to AMFA at NWA in 2005. He was bitter the AMTs left his scam of a union a few years back. And no AMTs called the rampers and IAM members "ramp apes" and other disparaging terms like Roach charged.
Josh
TRAVIS said:My bad Josh did not realize you were quoting Roach! lol had me confused...Was not their but I did hear it got a little ugly when the picket lines were getting crossed by good old union members and from what union was that......thats right Roach and the boys...