Iam Cwa

[unit4clt]

Very sad proposal from the CWA. Seems they just wont to get an agreement. Any agreement should be proposed on the company actually run as a LCC. Currently this company only wants its workers to finance a failed business plan. Running its business and paying its workers like Southwest would mean RAISES for my work group of about 50% or more.
The first mistake the CWA made was to accept the company's terms for LCC wages, without management running the airline as a true LCC.
IN court Union attorneys should put up charts showing how many RJ's Southwest,Jetblue and othersfly, which in these two cases would be 0, while US would be 95 or so. Then proceed to show how many international flights the other LCC's have compared to US. Simply, show US has no intentions of running as a LCC then show why Wages and benefits should be left intact.

 

[WestCoastGuy]

I have serious doubts about the company accepting the union proposal mainly because Jerry Glass is so fired up about outsourcing. They company wants to permanently outsource as many jobs as possible. There should also be a demand that Jerry Glass be immediately fired upon acceptance of the proposal by the company. This alone would boost moral and productivity.

 

[unit4clt]

What about some information for the IAM members? As usual keeping it's members in the dark! While sad indeed the CWA informs its members.

 

[Justaramper]

Don't you think it would be better to have a counter proposal in the judges hand when the hearing begins..? That way he can choose the lesser of two evils {yeah right}.

It's a shame the airline industry has gotten this bad in the USA, it has set labor back 10+ years and we may never be able to recover. At times you have to wonder what U is doing, as they seem to be running this airline the same way they always have. There ideas may change a little, but it's the same problems over and over.

Now they want to hire the lowest level of help and expect it to run to perfection. You can't have a high turnover in help and expect the job to get done, it just won't happen

No matter how hard we scream about it, they just don't see the big picture. Oh, they will survive and become that LCC, but the product will be so bad, the public will not return after flying them one time.

Then who is to blame...?

 

[28yrsnojob]

:down: Its amazing how the IAM tells there layed off members nothing.
When are they going to recall these members to DAY BTV ITH BHM AVP
MEM BGM STL ,WHY IS IT THAT THE CWA KEEPS THERE MEMBER WORKING IN THESE CITIES AND THE IAM DOES NOTHING . iTS A FACT THAT THEY COULD
SETTLE AT A FAIR WAGE AND GET ALL THEIR CITIES BACK. BUT NOTHING
IS DONE FOR THESE MEMBERS. hALF OF THEM ARE IN PHL OR CLT ANYWAY
COMMUTING BACK AND FORTH.LETS FACE IT MANY WOULD GO BACK BECAUSE THERE ISNT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAINLINE AND MAINLINE EXPRESS
PAY NOW AND NO PENSION NOW AND NO MEDICAL NOW AT RETIREMENT.
DID WE PAY ALL THESE DUES FOR NOTHING.

 

[robbedagain]

:down: Its amazing how the IAM tells there layed off members nothing.
When are they going to recall these members to DAY BTV ITH BHM AVP
MEM BGM STL ,WHY IS IT THAT THE CWA KEEPS THERE MEMBER WORKING IN THESE CITIES AND THE IAM DOES NOTHING . iTS A FACT THAT THEY COULD
SETTLE AT A FAIR WAGE AND GET ALL THEIR CITIES BACK. BUT NOTHING
IS DONE FOR THESE MEMBERS. hALF OF THEM ARE IN PHL OR CLT ANYWAY
COMMUTING BACK AND FORTH.LETS FACE IT MANY WOULD GO BACK BECAUSE THERE ISNT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAINLINE AND MAINLINE EXPRESS
PAY NOW AND NO PENSION NOW AND NO MEDICAL NOW AT RETIREMENT.
DID WE PAY ALL THESE DUES FOR NOTHING.

[post="203149"][/post]​

the thing that makes it different about mainline and mainline express is that we are paid a top out of 13.01 an hr and mainline currently is i think 15.40 or something in the neighborhood. we were sold down the river without life jackets and we could have gone to the listed cities but they too were turned upside down into the mainline express crap plus we have to do push backs, ops, tkt cntr/gates put up with nasty customers especially when delays are up, deice etc etc whereas mainline doesnt have to do that. i think that the iam should at least get the cities back and bring our wages up to the mainline cities. then if mgmt gets their crying ways we at mainline exp would go from 13.01 down again to 12.65 and then i believe that is where more people in the mainline would leave in such large numbers who would be able to help us out? probably no one

 

[700UW]

In an 1113C the judge does not rule on the Company's proposal or the Union's counter, he only rules on yes or no to abrogation.

 

[johnnyfleet]

Quick question for you all...

Everyone agrees that the majors need to adopt to LCC workrules...

How many holidays do JetBlue rampers/customer service get paid for?

The answer: 3 (Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years)

You all talk about how your wages are lower the WN, but the fact remains that WN still doesn't (and never has) paid for 10 holidays!

[post="203030"][/post]​

Wrong!! WN gets 12 holidays per year!!


ARTICLE TWENTY-TWO
HOLIDAYS/FREEDAYS

A. Freeday Allowance. Each Employee covered hereunder shall be granted one (1) day with pay free of the Company during each month from January through October of each year. The day free of the Company shall be bid in conjunction with each shift bid.

B. Restrictions/Requirements. Each day of the month shall have at least one (1) A.M. and one (1) P.M. shift available for bid at each location and, where there are five (5) or fewer Employees in a classification at a location, at least one (1) shift per day shall be awarded based upon seniority. An Employee must have worked forty (40) hours, including WOP time, during the month to qualify for a freeday. A new hire must have begun his employment prior to the 10th of the month and have worked forty (40) hours during the month to establish eligibility. An Employee who bids a freeday and becomes ill before working forty (40) hours in the month shall be paid for the freeday, provided his accumulated sick pay is sufficient to encompass the scheduled freeday. No covered Employee shall be required to work overtime on his freeday, but an Employee may elect to work on his freeday if he so desires.

C. Holidays. The following holidays shall be observed: Thanksgiving Day (November) and Christmas Day (December). These holidays shall be that day generally recognized as that holiday. All Employees shall receive a holiday bonus in an amount equal to their regular compensation rate, including premium and differentials, if applicable, for eight (8) hours. If the Company requires an Employee to work on a holiday, he shall be paid time and one-half according to his regular compensation rate for the first eight (8) hours, in addition to his regular holiday bonus rate, and triple time thereafter. An Employee scheduled to work on a holiday who does not report for work shall lose all pay for such holiday unless the absence is due to sickness or is excused.

D. Additional Vacation Day. If the Company-approved holiday (or day free of the Company) falls within an Employee's vacation period, an extra day with pay shall be added to the Employee's vacation in lieu of holiday bonus.

E. Freeday Bid. If any shift bid for more than one (1) calendar month is re-bid, Employees shall be allowed to re-bid affected freedays.

Plus The best vacation in the industry

ARTICLE FOURTEEN
VACATIONS/DAT DAYS

. Accrual. All Employees shall receive two (2) weeks vacation beginning in the year following their first anniversary with the Company. All Employees shall receive three (3) weeks vacation beginning in the year following their fifth anniversary with the Company. All Employees shall receive four (4) weeks vacation beginning in the year following their tenth anniversary with the Company. All Employees shall receive five (5) weeks vacation beginning in the year following their eighteenth anniversary with the Company.

Southwest Ramp Contract

 

[robbedagain]

that sounds like a decent type of agreement. i think i would not mind having something like that but at usair that wont happen well unless your name is jerry glASS

 

[unit4clt]

Regarding WN vacation: As usual these management types state half-truths.