How many AMT's

[DalMD88]

How many AMT's are currently directly employed at NW? Where are they based? Which stations are currently contract stations and how many guys are in that pool?

 

[slothman2000]

How many AMT's are currently directly employed at NW? Where are they based? Which stations are currently contract stations and how many guys are in that pool?

At last count (and it has been awhile) there was over 1200...this is quite a lot more than the 880 that they said that they were going to run their operation with....all of the so-called mechanics and support techs are either in msp or dtw...keep in mind that the managers also do a lot of the mechanic work also...several months ago they tried to hire managers to several of the out stations for this purpose....if you go to AMFA Local 33 page, the seniority list is posted there....

 

[Necrophilias]

At last count (and it has been awhile) there was over 1200...this is quite a lot more than the 880 that they said that they were going to run their operation with....all of the so-called mechanics and support techs are either in msp or dtw...keep in mind that the managers also do a lot of the mechanic work also...several months ago they tried to hire managers to several of the out stations for this purpose....if you go to AMFA Local 33 page, the seniority list is posted there....

Oh that's quite a reduction given the number of mechanics who used to be employed at SCABAIR. That must be a well synchronized operation. HA HA HA!

 

[UAL_TECH]

Less than 10% are honorable. The rest are scabs.
Good luck working with this bunch :down:

Take Care and watch your back
B) UT

 

[DalMD88]

Only 1200. That would give a combined total of roughly 5500 AMT. I doubt a union vote would pass, even with 1200 yes from NW. Senority cold be pretty much a non issue if no stations are closed. In fact the two groups would pretty much not interact. The big if for us in my eyes is what happens in CVG? If that station gets downsized because flying is shifted to DTW, a bunch of DL guys will hit the street. In the past RIF events very few from there opted to move.

The other question is outstations that NW now staffs with contract employees. Here in BOS they are staffed by Swissport. Do we just take over the operation and show Swissport the door? In our current state I doubt we could absorb the workload. It will get very interesting.

 

[RobertD]

Only 1200. That would give a combined total of roughly 5500 AMT. I doubt a union vote would pass, even with 1200 yes from NW. Senority cold be pretty much a non issue if no stations are closed. In fact the two groups would pretty much not interact. The big if for us in my eyes is what happens in CVG? If that station gets downsized because flying is shifted to DTW, a bunch of DL guys will hit the street. In the past RIF events very few from there opted to move.

The other question is outstations that NW now staffs with contract employees. Here in BOS they are staffed by Swissport. Do we just take over the operation and show Swissport the door? In our current state I doubt we could absorb the workload. It will get very interesting.

JMO, if you had any ballz you'd shet can the contractors and demand the return of the honorable on lay-off. It could work both ways, you guys may find yourselves working for the contractors. After all, airlines are in business to fly airplanes not to maintain them. At least thats the NW motto. hmmm sometimes unions are worth having for this very reason.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

You guys are starting to raise interesting/unsettling(albeit) Necessary questions about DL/NW

My best guess is that;
1. (both) Pilots...(alpa) automatic DOVETAIL

2. Significantly MORE DL (non Union) F/a's could trump the union NW F/a's (potential PROBLEM on the horizon !

3. Exact same situation for NW AMT's :down:

4. (here is where there's HOPE) Regular FT/ and PT union NW rampers should equal approx. same amount of REGULAR DL rampers, PLUS a decent number of DL "REGULAR" rampers voting YES.

Where both side's NEED TO BE -VERY- Vigilant, is to NOT allow Steenland to throw Swissport rampers into the mix, and NOT let Anderson throw DGL(delta global "whatever") into the mix.

It's my understanding that there is Precedent setting Language(with the FEDS) that stops DL from mixing CS people in with the guys who regularly work the ramp(even though there is this Broad "job description" language by DL, that specifiys everyone as CS people.

 

[groundcontrol]

JMO, if you had any ballz you'd shet can the contractors and demand the return of the honorable on lay-off. It could work both ways, you guys may find yourselves working for the contractors. After all, airlines are in business to fly airplanes not to maintain them. At least thats the NW motto. hmmm sometimes unions are worth having for this very reason.

Got that right! Here's a bit of a read...who's gonna be top dog?

http://www.startribune.com/business/14167791.html

 

[Kev3188]

You guys are starting to raise interesting/unsettling(albeit) Necessary questions about DL/NW

Where both side's NEED TO BE -VERY- Vigilant, is to NOT allow Steenland to throw Swissport rampers into the mix, and NOT let Anderson throw DGL(delta global "whatever") into the mix.

NHBB--

Only "actual" NWA people would be involved with the voting. That's not to say the compnay won't try, though....

 

[brokenwrench]

It is quite possible that this merger, if it happens, will prove the fastest way to get the honorable men and women back to work.

As in the example given where DL is staffed and NW using Scabport, the contract should/would be terminated and recalls to the station to fill the slots needed.

If this merger is to work the model of Delta/Western should be used as it had great (relative to the industry) success. The AMT'S all get DOH, the NW guys are brought up to DL pay IMMEDIATLY and then all AMT'S are brought up to "industry standard pay!"

This would get the employees on board, and as we all know, if they are not the merger will not work.

 

[slothman2000]

Only 1200. That would give a combined total of roughly 5500 AMT. I doubt a union vote would pass, even with 1200 yes from NW. Senority cold be pretty much a non issue if no stations are closed. In fact the two groups would pretty much not interact. The big if for us in my eyes is what happens in CVG? If that station gets downsized because flying is shifted to DTW, a bunch of DL guys will hit the street. In the past RIF events very few from there opted to move.

The other question is outstations that NW now staffs with contract employees. Here in BOS they are staffed by Swissport. Do we just take over the operation and show Swissport the door? In our current state I doubt we could absorb the workload. It will get very interesting.

you would never get a hundred "yes" votes from this bunch let alone 1200....and that number is prob a couple years old...you can go to local 33's site and pull up the seniority list and also go to exnwa.com and pull up their list of scabs...by comparing the two, you will get a good idea of how many have been recalled and how many are 'outhouse' and 'inhouse' scabs...like ualtech said, 10% is a good number of honorable but it is prob less than that...

 

[700UW]

ALPA does not have dovetail anymore, it was removed from their bylaws.

US/HP merger proved that.

They negotiate and if they cant decide on an intergration it goes to binding arbitration.