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Did anybody happen to see the updated health insurance proposal posted 3-23 on jetnet? Also updated retirement (prefunding).
Here Comes the 'term sheet"
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xUT
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That is probably due to the 'resurgence' of World Traveler ofter years of silence during the DAL BK.
IIRC, during the UAL BK WT was touting how DAL is superior and would whip the pants off of UAL as our business model was not sustainable. Disappeared after the DAL BK.
UAL thread is dead after BK as (IMHO) the employees who cared were laid off/ejected/retired/quit/don't care anymore.
Let's see how this forum survives after the BK carnage, then it will be you, WT, FWAAA, and Boeing Boy to keep things going.
But then again, this BK is 'different'...
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Kev3188
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Wow!
Those are some names I haven't heard in awhile... I miss both; Cosmo in particular.
Those are some names I haven't heard in awhile... I miss both; Cosmo in particular.
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April fools is coming soon, maybe we will be blessed with one of UKridge eloquent posts...
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Fly was my favorite sparring partner.. still wonder if she is still plying the TATL routes from IAD.
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You might want to hold onto your thought as to how well UA ends up... they are facing some serious integration issues which are having highly unwanted effects on their customers - and it is being widely publicized.
If it is even half true that agents have been forced to step back 20-30 years in technology and now can work at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed as they once did (and that is not unreasonable to assume if there is no appropriate GUI), then UA will have a very tough year ahead of it.
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But the year is going to be nasty for most airline employees.... there will be precious few who will be getting pay raises or profit sharing that will pay for more than a few tanks of gas - and if they get pay raises while their employer posts large losses, the chances of holding onto those pay raises will be slim to none - because we all know by now that what is given in this industry is more often taken away in larger portions later.
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You might want to hold onto your thought as to how well UA ends up... they are facing some serious integration issues which are having highly unwanted effects on their customers - and it is being widely publicized.
If it is even half true that agents have been forced to step back 20-30 years in technology and now can work at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed as they once did (and that is not unreasonable to assume if there is no appropriate GUI), then UA will have a very tough year ahead of it.
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But the year is going to be nasty for most airline employees.... there will be precious few who will be getting pay raises or profit sharing that will pay for more than a few tanks of gas - and if they get pay raises while their employer posts large losses, the chances of holding onto those pay raises will be slim to none - because we all know by now that what is given in this industry is more often taken away in larger portions later.
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And, since DL has extraordinary ability to be flexible while simultaneously achieving all of the synergies from the consolidated pmNW and pmDL networks, let us not also forget that they continue to have the lowest CASM and highest PRASM of any pre-deregulation carrier with a corporate headquarters still located in the Eastern time zone, and have proven time and time again that they are unmatched in proactively ensuring they maintain a sustainable cost base which nicely complements their highly superior revenue generating capability.
This may, unfortunately, require rescinding or modifying the generous adjustments granted toreward employees for their forward looking decisions regarding representation restore employees to their pre-bankruptcy incomes.
This may, unfortunately, require rescinding or modifying the generous adjustments granted to
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cute, but you need only look at what is happening at AA to be reminded that the only assurance of retaining salaries and benefits is to stay strategically at the top of the game and then execute every one of those strategies nearly flawlessly.
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We could cite one example after another but there have been so many strategic errors and poor executions of whatever strategies have arisen that it is really rather remarkable there are as many airlines left in the US.
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And given that so much of the industry this year is in the midst of either court-supervised restructuring or trying to sort through mergers which are not going well (euphemism), there will be alot more pain for airline employees.
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But there will be some companies that will benefit - as will their employees - because in the free market someone's loss is someone else's gain.
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In an industry that is constantly facing competitive pressures as well as pressures from the larger geopolitical arena, airlines that can successfully adapt the best, including through mergers and acquisitions, are and will be those that succeed the most.
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We could cite one example after another but there have been so many strategic errors and poor executions of whatever strategies have arisen that it is really rather remarkable there are as many airlines left in the US.
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And given that so much of the industry this year is in the midst of either court-supervised restructuring or trying to sort through mergers which are not going well (euphemism), there will be alot more pain for airline employees.
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But there will be some companies that will benefit - as will their employees - because in the free market someone's loss is someone else's gain.
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In an industry that is constantly facing competitive pressures as well as pressures from the larger geopolitical arena, airlines that can successfully adapt the best, including through mergers and acquisitions, are and will be those that succeed the most.
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