Gun Threads - Merged

[EastUS1]

Do you have to have a license and insurance?

 
Of course. While the following question then arises naturally: Do you have an IQ surpassing even 80? Does any "license and insurance", however then fully blessed by the government, mean anyone's actually qualified to sanely drive a car? The annual stats prove otherwise. The point being that idiots in guv-mint can NOT and will NEVER be able to make everyone/anyone magically "safe" from others or themselves...So what's your point? You're obviously just fine with "18,600 motor-vehicle deaths from January through June this year", since those deaths were from fully regulated/licensed/insured cars and their drivers, but somehow fantasize that government "control" over personal weapons will magically make everything "safe"? Seriously?...Are you just simply and clinically insane or what?

 

[cltrat]

Of course. While the following question then arises naturally: Do you have an IQ surpassing even 80? Does any "license and insurance", however then fully blessed by the government, mean anyone's actually qualified to sanely drive a car? The annual stats prove otherwise. The point being that idiots in guv-mint can NOT and will NEVER be able to make everyone magically "safe".

he and KC are having a contest for stupid anti gun comments

 

[EastUS1]

he and KC are having a contest for stupid anti gun comments

 
So it seems.
 
Again: The point being that idiots in guv-mint can NOT and will NEVER be able to make everyone magically "safe". It's thus a certainty that whenever "guv-mint" wishes to disarm even their very own nation's citizens...It sure-as-heck ain't for of ANY notions of supposed "safety"...other than for themselves, of course...

 

[700UW]

So you and rat are having stupid pro gun comments.

See two can play your game.

 

[EastUS1]

So you and rat are having stupid pro gun comments.

See two can play your game.

 
No worries for you 700 club. Any liberal pigeon can try/pretend to play chess, but all they ever end up doing is trying to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and yet absurdly strut around as if they'd somehow "won".

 

[cltrat]

So you and rat are having stupid pro gun comments.

See two can play your game.

I haven't made any. I'm also not the idiot who posted a poll of HRC killing Bernie and another showing Bernie winning it all in the same day.

 

[EastUS1]

 
.....Would you be opposed to requiring military service for someone to own a gun? 

 
Would you be opposed to military service being required for voting? The "democrat" party would vanish in a day.

 

[KCFlyer]

 
While we're playing that tune though; I think Service to America should be a basic qualification for being able to vote....and you?

 
The right to vote says nothing about protecting the free state.  The second amendment does.  It seems that what the founding fathers MEANT was that everyone has a right to own a semiautomatic musket, but we've already GOT an Army...so enjoy.    The words are in the constitution.  If the second amendment is sacred, why do we ignore that part when it comes to owning guns? 

 

[EastUS1]

 
The right to vote says nothing about protecting the free state. .....

 
Nor, very sadly, about anyone having any personal Duty to do so, so liberals can always count on others to do that for you? I see now...Sigh. Umm..and given that; exactly why should those who do protect you much at all care about what the left "thinks" about weapons?

 

[KCFlyer]

Here is the text of the second amendment:
 
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
 
The only arguments I am hearing is that last part....the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.  Why do you all leave out part BEFORE the comma? 

 

[EastUS1]

Here is the text of the second amendment:
 
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
 
The only arguments I am hearing is that last part....the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.  Why do you all leave out part BEFORE the comma? 

 
Because I've actually studied Washington/Jefferson/et al, and fully understand when they adopted the clear notion that "The Right of the People to keep and bear arms"...they MEANT it, as written, and it requires the incredibly convoluted "thinking" of a liberal to even question that based solely on a comma.
 
Per "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State"? Just who do think the likes of Paul Revere were calling on? Who do you think they meant by "militia"?....Some government sanctioned entity? Not hardly. "Well regulated" in those times didn't mean by the government, but rather by the people themselves, properly practicing and and being fully willing to rise to meet any threat.
 
http://thomaslegion.net/captain_john_parker.html  " Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." All those so eager to disarm and render helpless their fellow Americans might do well to pay heed to the part about "but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here."

 

[KCFlyer]

 
Because I've actually studied Washington/Jefferson/et al, and fully understand when they adopted the clear notion that "The Right of the People to keep and bear arms"...they MEANT it, as written, and it requires the incredibly convoluted "thinking" of a liberal to even question that based solely on a comma.
 
Per "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State"? Just who do think the likes of Paul Revere were calling on? Who do you think they meant by "militia"?....Some government sanctioned entity? Not hardly.

Well...in the words of Sarah Palin...Paul Revere is riding thru town ringing those bells to tell us that ISIS isn't gonna take our guns. So why isn't the militia being sent over to protect the free state?  I guess it IS easier to slap the yellow "support our troops (and thank God it's not my kid) " sticker on the SUV while on the way to the gun shop. 
 
And did Jefferson foresee semiautomatic muskets?

 

[EastUS1]

Well...in the words of Sarah Palin........ 
 
And did Jefferson foresee semiautomatic muskets?

 
 I think we're fully done here, since I don't care at all about whatever Sarah Palin's ever said, but will take proper guidance from the Founders' intentions instead.
 
"And did Jefferson foresee semiautomatic muskets?" You've now simply embarrassed yourself displaying such abject ignorance. Yes he did, and in fact didn't have to "foresee" them, since they already existed. He even personally bought some for the Lewis and Clark expedition:  http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/founders/jefferson/thomas-jeffersons-assault-rifle-the-girardoni-air-rifle
 
I've no doubt whatsoever that were AR15's in ready production at the time, that he'd have instead equipped their expedition with those.
 
So...You didn't even know that much about our history, nor the people who made it, and yet would lay laughably fatuous claim to the supposed significance of a comma, as if the Founders were somehow your personal BFF's and most intimate confidantes?
 
Suggest additional material for study:  http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/The-Puckle-or-Defense-Gun/  "The Puckle Gun, or Defense Gun as it was also known, was invented and patented in 1718 by the London lawyer James Puckle. This early automatic weapon..."
 
http://www.ctsportsmen.com/news/dispelling_another_gun_control_m.htm 
 
"And did Jefferson foresee semiautomatic muskets?" Thanks for the laughs.
 
Next case?

 

[Dog Wonder]

And did Jefferson foresee semiautomatic muskets?

"And did Jefferson foresee semiautomatic muskets?

And he wanted guns in the hands of any one wanting to prove their fantasy virility if they couldn't any other way.

 

[EastUS1]

And he wanted guns in the hands of any one wanting to prove their fantasy virility if they couldn't any other way.

 
Well, there's no possible doubt you don't somehow understand the great man's mind far better than he himself did, and thus can take on the childish presumptions you feel so magically entitled to, but even JFK, the last decent Democrat felt otherwise..not that such creatures as yourself should ever hold the slightest respect for anyone, anywhere: "The title of today’s entry is from an address made, April 29,1962, by President John F. Kennedy in welcoming a group of Nobel Prize winners to a dinner in their honor at The White House. The extended quote is: “I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House — with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.”  http://pavellas.com/2008/10/08/when-thomas-jefferson-dined-alone/