Gun Threads - Merged

[Dog Wonder]

 
That's at least the normal liberal response, and one grants self preservation to be an instinctive issue, but spring loaded just "to flee" isn't so entirely universal a trait as might be imagined. Many circumstances can arise in life where "to flee" would only ensure one's own demise.

The Liberals at the FBI say, Run, Hide, Fight.  But what do they know?

 

[EastUS1]

The Liberals at the FBI say, Run, Hide, Fight.  But what do they know?

 
Nothing at all. Tell me of the FBI's grand victories on any actual battlefield before again making such pathetically feeble efforts to "impress"....?
 
How 'bout at least first offering up the full casualty listings of America's enemies they've ever killed?
 
"Run, Hide" is a long established mantra for "liberals". What's your point?
 
Oh!   My bad. I didn't include the "Fight" part, so perhaps you could include at least a half sentence recalling for us about ALL the liberal "war heroes" that've EVER even existed?...? 😉

 

[Dog Wonder]

The Liberals at the FBI say, Run, Hide, Fight.  But what do they know?

 
Nothing at all.

I work with the Feds, they wouldn't hire you to sweep their floors.

 

[EastUS1]

I work with the Feds, they wouldn't hire you to sweep their floors.

 
A good thing there for all concerned, since I've no desire to sweep their floors.
 
"I work with the Feds,"...? Since you make an issue of even that; in what capacity?...A door jamb?...Or just "court jester"? 😉
 
Actually capable people can always kill America's enemies, but none can apparently ever educate you sorts as to even the following concept:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bfe6CgYbH8

 

[Dog Wonder]

I work with the Feds, they wouldn't hire you to sweep their floors.

 

A good thing there for all concerned.

We agree on that.

 

[KCFlyer]

 
Nothing at all. Tell me of the FBI's grand victories on any actual battlefield before again making such pathetically feeble efforts to "impress"....?
 
How 'bout at least first offering up the full casualty listings of America's enemies they've ever killed?
 
"Run, Hide" is a long established mantra for "liberals". What's your point?
 
Oh!   My bad. I didn't include the "Fight" part, so perhaps you could include at least a half sentence recalling for us about ALL the liberal "war heroes" that've EVER even existed?...? 😉

 
I seem to recall some guy name Harry Truman that ended a war.  I seem to recall some guy named Kennedy who averted a nuclear war.  I seem to recall that he also had some incident with a PT boat back in WW2.   I seem to recall some guy name Kerry who was insulted and debased by the right for his actions in a place called Vietnam...a place his hawkish opponent couldn't find on a map, since he couldn't find Alabama on a map.  

 

[townpete]

I seem to recall some guy name Harry Truman that ended a war.  I seem to recall some guy named Kennedy who averted a nuclear war.  I seem to recall that he also had some incident with a PT boat back in WW2.   I seem to recall some guy name Kerry who was insulted and debased by the right for his actions in a place called Vietnam...a place his hawkish opponent couldn't find on a map, since he couldn't find Alabama on a map.

And liberals are still guilt ridden for one of theirs dropping the bomb.

You can't have it both ways buttercup.

 

[Dog Wonder]

And liberals.

You speak for liberals?  All you have is a defective trollbot program that can't be updated.

 

[townpete]

Truman must have been a republican after they did that whole "side switching" liberals tell us about. lol

There's no way in hell Truman would survive in the modern day LWNJ world. He would have been banned from the party long ago.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Or Reagan in the Just Ain't Right world of fake patriotism.

 

[Ifly2]

Didn't say that either,

Some situation obviously require an instantaneous reaction. A battlefield would seem to be one. Training can "inform" that reaction, or so I have been told.

I was not trained to fight. I served, I did my job well. Not that many enlisted navy jobs actually involve personally fighting in a combat situation. That is just what it is.

As for a personal decision to fight or flee, I was trying to say that the thing is to not just always react to one's "feelings" in every situation, but that hopefully some thought goes into choosing the appropriate and necessary response. Training can inform that process also, or so I have been told. Told by a cousin who taught at Quantico, and a half dozen other LEO's in the family. Universally, they stressed the training and the necessity to evaluate before acting, and that what eventually became "second nature" or a "natural response" was in reality the result of training and mental conditioning.

 

[KCFlyer]

Didn't say that either,

Some situation obviously require an instantaneous reaction. A battlefield would seem to be one. Training can "inform" that reaction, or so I have been told.

I was not trained to fight. I served, I did my job well. Not that many enlisted navy jobs actually involve personally fighting in a combat situation. That is just what it is.

As for a personal decision to fight or flee, I was trying to say that the thing is to not just always react to one's "feelings" in every situation, but that hopefully some thought goes into choosing the appropriate and necessary response. Training can inform that process also, or so I have been told. Told by a cousin who taught at Quantico, and a half dozen other LEO's in the family. Universally, they stressed the training and the necessity to evaluate before acting, and that what eventually became "second nature" or a "natural response" was in reality the result of training and mental conditioning.

 
What they don't seem to understand is this....on a battlefield, you are pretty much expecting to be shot at.  You are pretty much on alert the whole time.  At a rock concert, school or movie....not so much.  But they are ready....they were watching star wars with their hand on the gun in their waistband.  

 

[EastUS1]

Some situation obviously require an instantaneous reaction. A battlefield would seem to be one. Training can "inform" that reaction, or so I have been told.

I was not trained to fight.

 
"I was not trained to fight." Then I think we're done here, and perhaps it'd be best for you to drop all the absurdly pretentious "macho liberal" BS....?...OR?....You could again lecture us all about exactly what laughably supposed thinking and "reason" you might have to immediately offer up as "wisdom" for any actual life/death fight that we should all so eagerly listen to? I've no doubt that all of us could profit from some "liberal" version of a presumed Miyamoto Musashi telling us all "how to fight"....?
 
Ifly2: "The Thing is to get past the "human response", or "feeling", and use reason applied to tje facts and situation to make a rational and hopefully correct decision."...? How would you even pretend to know?
 
Sigh...For the hopeful benefit of even the very densest of all liberals: might I ask all to at least consider the following?
 
"The Thing is to get past the "human response", or "feeling", and use reason applied to tje facts and situation to make a rational and hopefully correct decision." And yet :"I was not trained to fight."...? Seriously; do ALL of you people just spend your whole lives inside Fantasyland? 😉

 

[southwind]

What they don't seem to understand is this....on a battlefield, you are pretty much expecting to be shot at.  You are pretty much on alert the whole time.  At a rock concert, school or movie....not so much.  But they are ready....they were watching star wars with their hand on the gun in their waistband.

And that will become life in America, under people like BaRack, who refuse to take the fight to the enemy and would rather fight it on our soil!

Again, I'll reiterate, I'll take my chances with someone, sitting in a Star Wars movie, packing heat vs. a Libtard standing up screaming at a shooter , "But this is a gun free zone" any day!

 

[southwind]

And that will become life in America, under people like BaRack, who refuse to take the fight to the enemy and would rather fight it on our soil!
Whether the Libtards want to face it or not, we are at "WAR" with "Islamic Extremists" and no matter was reason or excuse you come up with for this war, the fact remains that fanatical Islamists want Americans dead!

Again, I'll reiterate, I'll take my chances with someone, sitting in a Star Wars movie, packing heat vs. a Libtard standing up screaming at a shooter , "But this is a gun free zone" any day!