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Investors look favorably on companies that never lose money and have a steady growth rate.
Say that Ual had a steady profit year after year of 10 %.
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This sounds great! The fact that it has NEVER happened in the entire histroy of UAL might make it a bit if a stretch. However, the basic premise is fine...pay employees to the downtrend and reward them during the good times. Unfortunately, IT NEVER HAPPENS! In fact, THAT is exactly what all the C2K contracts were about! They were supposed to be rewards for the billions in cost savings over six years that led to record profits for years, and are now being pertrayed by the company and all their analyst mouth pieces as the reason UAL is in the sh!tter.

Let's get real! Mgmt, certainly historically at UAL, has NEVER felt the need to reward the employees for performance. THEY, on the other hand, get multi-million dollar rewards for their excellent mgmt of economic conditions that, when positive, are THEIR fault, but when negative, are the unions fault. After all, all th employees are is just a cost-center for UAL mgmt to whittle away during the down times.

Grand gestures require grand thinkers. We lack both in abundance at UAL, so I don't hold out much hope for your upbeat scenario. However, were I to get stock options in lieu of the $67K paycut I am about to take, I would take it. UAL WILL survive, and stock options at these levels would make EVERY employee a millionaire in the years ahead, not just the mgmt guys who share them out amongst themselves!

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On 10/26/2002 3:13:43 PM mancityfan wrote:

Investors look favorably on companies that never lose money and have a steady growth rate.
Say that Ual had a steady profit year after year of 10 %.
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This sounds great! The fact that it has NEVER happened in the entire histroy of UAL might make it a bit if a stretch. However, the basic premise is fine...pay employees to the downtrend and reward them during the good times. Unfortunately, IT NEVER HAPPENS! In fact, THAT is exactly what all the C2K contracts were about! They were supposed to be "rewards" for the billions in cost savings over six years that led to record profits for years, and are now being pertrayed by the company and all their analyst mouth pieces as the reason UAL is in the sh!tter.

Let's get real! Mgmt, certainly historically at UAL, has NEVER felt the need to reward the employees for performance. THEY, on the other hand, get multi-million dollar "rewards" for their excellent mgmt of economic conditions that, when positive, are THEIR fault, but when negative, are the unions fault. After all, all th employees are is just a cost-center for UAL mgmt to whittle away during the down times.

Grand gestures require grand thinkers. We lack both in abundance at UAL, so I don't hold out much hope for your upbeat scenario. However, were I to get stock options in lieu of the $67K paycut I am about to take, I would take it. UAL WILL survive, and stock options at these levels would make EVERY employee a millionaire in the years ahead, not just the mgmt guys who share them out amongst themselves!

mancityfan
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Here is what I like the most about your post.
Although you are negative about the company management, ( which we all have a right to be, considering their performance ) you are not as negative about the concept as you were before, and even added to the idea with some sort of stock options. We could all have a nice retirement package.

My idea is getting through this situation right now by doing whatever it takes, and then refining a plan through majority employee particapation to give us a part in all negotiations of the company.
All employees should have a say in the future of Ual and the employees future as well. Employees own the company. Not just a elite few who make the decisions here. I am talking about management and union heads.

We, the employees, will have to make the changes that have never been done.

The juries still out whether Tilton can bring leadership to Ual.
One way or the other, Tilton has a few months with the company, and a nice package. His reasons for seeing Ual prosper is only a challenge. Ours are quality of life issues.

We all need each other to make Ual a success.
Good luck,
 

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