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Government asks for mistrial for 1s tLt. Ehrin Watada.

Of his refusal to get on the plane, Watada said: "To me it means to (not) participate in a war that I believed to be illegal."

Not declaring war provides a way to circumvent constitutional safeguards against the executive declaring war, and also, in some cases, to avoid feeling bound by the established laws of war. Not using the word "war" is also seen as being more public relations-friendly. For these reasons, governments have generally ceased to issue declarations of war, instead describing their actions by euphemisms such as "police action" or "authorized use of force."

Refusing an order was the issue,not the legality of the war as some liberal buffoons wished it to be.
 
Not declaring war provides a way to circumvent constitutional safeguards against the executive declaring war, and also, in some cases, to avoid feeling bound by the established laws of war. Not using the word "war" is also seen as being more public relations-friendly. For these reasons, governments have generally ceased to issue declarations of war, instead describing their actions by euphemisms such as "police action" or "authorized use of force."

Refusing an order was the issue,not the legality of the war as some liberal buffoons wished it to be.

If you can find "police action" or "authorized use of force" in the Constitution, let me know. If its not in there it is unconstitutional unless authorized by congress.
Maybe if we all shed the phony liberal vs. conservative bull shite, we will realize that we are all Americans and it is our country and way of life that is in grave danger. The danger is not from Alqaeda, it is from traitorous politicians like George Bush, Bill Clinton, Chaney, Shumer etc. and the corporate/banking masters that control them. There are still a few honest politicians (Rep. and Dem.) in Washington but they get no media attention. You hear about Hillary, Obama, the big toothed wonder Rudy, etal but you don't hear about Ron Paul(R-TX) announcing his candidacy, do you?

As far as Lt. Watada goes, it is bizzare that the judge declare a mistrial the way he did. Lt. Watada never denied he missed movement. I believe the legality of the war or its implications had plenty to do with the mistrial decision.
Lt. Watada, God bless you sir.
 
Maybe if we all shed the phony liberal vs. conservative bull shite, we will realize that we are all Americans and it is our country and way of life that is in grave danger.

Ed...i'm 100% with you on that but as you are all too acutely aware....DC don't work without it.Thats the problem,it works for them but not you or I.
 

If you can find "police action" or "authorized use of force" in the Constitution, let me know. If its not in there it is unconstitutional unless authorized by congress.


Ed,

While I do not necesarily disagree with your idea, your logic is flawed. You are, in essence, suggesting that if something is not in the constitution, then it must be unconstitutional. Our constitution is not designed for that type of analysis.

Rather, something is typically considered "unconstitutional" when it is in disagreement with, or prohibited by, the statements/principles of the constitution. Which, by the way, you may very well find support for your assertion in other statements and principles in the constitution.

Under your analysis, we would all be doing something unconstitutional. For example, the constitution doesn't ever mention haircuts... so, under your analysis, everytime we get a haircut we are doing an unconstitutional act.
 
Military judge declares mistrial of Lieutenant Watada.

In light of yesterdays announcement that the link between Al-CIA-duh and Saddam was questionable; it seems that Lt. Watada's defense argument that he refused to obey an unlawful order, may not be too far off the mark. :up:

He signed a contract and took a pledge to do his ‘duty’ and then changed his mind.
F&(K him!
He is a coward and will probably be elected into pubic orifice.
:down: UT
 
He signed a contract and took a pledge to do his ‘duty’ and then changed his mind.
F&(K him!
He is a coward and will probably be elected into pubic orifice.
:down: UT

Well, if it was that cut and dry, then why did the judge declare a mistrial? Perhaps he was afraid the legality of the whole Iraq business venture...I mean... war to bring democracy to the Iraqui people :lol: would become the central focus of the case since Lt. Watada has not denied that he missed movement.
There are only two reasons to go to war: to defend the Bill of Rights and to defend your home.


Maybe someone should remind him of Eddie Slovik.
I bet you think William Calley was a hero. :down:
 
Well, if it was that cut and dry, then why did the judge declare a mistrial? Perhaps he was afraid the legality of the whole Iraq business venture...I mean... war to bring democracy to the Iraqui people :lol: would become the central focus of the case since Lt. Watada has not denied that he missed movement.
There are only two reasons to go to war: to defend the Bill of Rights and to defend your home.

I bet you think William Calley was a hero. :down:

oath for commissioned officers are as follows:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

Do I beleive that he should be executed? NO (Not a time of declared war)
Did he fullfill his obligation and Oath? No
Give him a DD and wash our hands of this coward.

UT
 
oath for commissioned officers are as follows:
Do I beleive that he should be executed? NO (Not a time of declared war)
Did he fullfill his obligation and Oath? No
Give him a DD and wash our hands of this coward.

UT
Good call, UT. Ay the very least, he will be found guilty of conduct unbecoming, so his sorry ass wont infect the rest of our beloved warriors.
 
I don't know about that...but he did go and sevre so A-holes like you can have the right to say and do as you wish.

Give me a break with that flag waving bull shite!
The last war that anyone died to protect our country was the war of 1812! Every war since has been for the propagation of corporate wealth and power. Yes, even the Civil War. Think that was about freeing slaves? Yeah right.
Mexican War-to grab the Southwest and Texas.
Spanish-American War-No more Indians to kill. Needed to create an Empire.
World War 1- to make the world safe for The House of Morgan.
World War 2-Save the Bank of England. Guess who helped finance Hitler? Prescott Bush- managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. W's grand daddy!
Korean War- Fight the damn commies, who were also financed by Wall Street.
Vietnam- again them damn commies, and some oil interests. Someting about falling dominoes too.
Next thing you'l give me the Freedom isn't free schpiel. Ever think about that? Freedom isn't free? I guess its free only if you come from wealth and priviledge.
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Dude ,it wasn't really the Street....you forgot the Rothchilds and then Bilderbergers.....the real deal behind the wars .

Excellent series

Have a nice USA day! B)
 
Dude ,it wasn't really the Street....you forgot the Rothchilds and then Bilderbergers.....the real deal behind the wars .

Excellent series

Have a nice USA day! B)
dude, you're pulling my leg, right? I thought that was all "conspiracy" stuff. As far as Prof. Quiqley, I have his book. Long read, 1300 pages. Lots of interesting info. Guess who admired Quigley? Slick Willie himself.
The Bolsheviks were actually financed out of Wall Street. The Guaranty Trust Company of NY was a key player, along with Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of NY. Its really shocking stuff. Makes you sick. As far as the flag goes...I love this country very much. I just hate to see patriotism used by the traitorous louts running this country as an excuse for their dastardly deeds
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