Fuel consumption

[jcw]

Does anyone have a good comparison of AA's fleet fuel consumption compared to DL's fuel consumption

Basically how much more fuel does DL have to burn a day over AA

 

[WorldTraveler]

read the quarterly financial reports... AA will release one tomorrow; DL released one last week.

fuel consumption and cost is one of the issues that is reported in significant detail.

 

[jcw]

Tough one isn't it - we need fuel consumption by aircraft type so we can see how much less fuel efficient one airline is compared to the other

For example I bet that 717 is more fuel efficient than the dc

 

[WorldTraveler]

fuel consumption by aircraft type is reported to the DOT and is usually published in Aviation Daily which is a subscription service but is available in some large libraries, esp. those that are aviation related.

 

[jcw]

Great we will wait for some folks in the know to highlight the facts for us

 

[john john]

Tough one isn't it - we need fuel consumption by aircraft type so we can see how much less fuel efficient one airline is compared to the other

For example I bet that 717 is more fuel efficient than the dc

Doesn’t the major airlines pay for fuel for the contract carriers

 

[jcw]

Yes they do

 

[jcw]

In case all of you wanted to know DL burned 12% more fuel in the quarter and was up 2% vs just up 1.4% for AA

You can see DL runs a gas guzzling fleet

 

[WeAAsles]

fuel consumption by aircraft type is reported to the DOT and is usually published in Aviation Daily which is a subscription service but is available in some large libraries, esp. those that are aviation related.

So for all your posturing and hyberbole you're saying that you can't afford the subscription to either confirm or deny your unending love and obsessive adulation for your corporate wife?

 

[silverbird007]

So hows the refinery working out for Deltaflot?

 

[WeAAsles]

Fleet age 13.5 years. And when all of the MD-80's are retired this number will be substantially lower.

http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/American%20Airlines.htm

Fleet age 16.9 years

http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Delta%20Air%20Lines.htm

 

[WorldTraveler]

So hows the refinery working out for Deltaflot?

made money for DL and is part of DL having the lowest fuel cost per gallon in the industry.

 

[jcw]

Once again AA made more money than DL

Sorry your fantasy land is not matching reality

Go back to hail to DL

Everyone should hail DL when they get a chance

 

[FWAAA]

Delta is slightly more fuel efficient than new AA. The following data is for consolidated operations (mainline and regionals) and yes, the mainline carrier pays for the fuel used by contract regionals.

For the first 9 months of 2014, DL flew 61.60 ASMs per gallon.

For the first 9 months of 2014, AA flew 61.26 ASMs per gallon.

Advantage Delta, but it's a very small advantage. Both airlines have a wide mix of old fuel hogs and newer, more fuel efficient jets. Both airlines have large fleets of smaller, less efficient RJs and both airlines have large fleets of larger, slightly more efficient 76-seaters.

The more important issue is fuel cost per gallon, where the major airlines vary substantially. For DL, the refinery and successful hedging can lower its fuel costs. For new AA, the absence of hedges (Parker doesn't believe it's a successful long-term strategy worth the huge potential downside) works when fuel costs are declining but could bite new AA in the ass if fuel costs spike again.