What expanding? Milan has lost three US airlines, plus Alitalia routes to SFO, LAX, and IAD, in the past few years. There has been no expansion at Milan.
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What expanding? Milan has lost three US airlines, plus Alitalia routes to SFO, LAX, and IAD, in the past few years. There has been no expansion at Milan.
Delta had dozens of 767s flying domestic routes (like in and out of Florida), so it was very simple for DL to expand its international flights: simply start flying long-range airplanes on longer-range routes.
AA, on the other hand, has been using its widebodies almost exclusively on international routes for more than a dozen years now (except, of course, for the AFS transcons).
So compared to DL, it is gonna be more difficult for AA to add lots of new international routes. There aren't very many 767s or 777s lying around on garbage-fare domestic routes.
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Which was a big part of the push to winglet the 757 fleet. It's just a matter of time before you see more narrowbodies to Europe and reaching further south into Latin America.
Thanks.I did seem that way.
Has AA taken any steps to aquire widebodies any time soon, other than any new ones we might have coming in?
Which market is losing the 777 that will fly ORD-FRA this spring, and also do you know if we will use one and the same aircraft to fly ORD-FCO, 4 times a week and JFK-FCO the other 3?
Where did this ac use to fly before?
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It was probably already carved out of the skeds to fly the China route y'all lost. If so, that also indicates that AA won't be starting up ORD-HKG anytime soon...
I think the 777 we leased to Boeing is coming back so that would free up an A/C.
Correct with the first part. The 772 is from JFK-EZE, which was supposed to go to DFW-PEK. However, losing that, it went to ORD-FRA.
Incorrect with the last part. ORD-FRA will only be a 772 through October, after that AA hopes to announced a new "ultra long haul" route to a TBD destination. Of course, that might or might not happen depending on market conditions, pilot contracts, etc., etc., but AA is currently investigating, very closely, launching a new destination in Asia or Africa next winter.
If not, the ORD-FRA 777 will likely move to JFK-EZE, MIA-SCL, or MIA-GIG.
Also, contrary to what people thing, AA's 772 fleet is heavily underutilized. The reason that AA is so tight on usage is because of how they strictly designate the planes to certain routes. If AA were a little more flexible switching between 767s and 772s on routes (which is, admittedly, difficult given the differrent products offered), they could get about 3-4 hours of extra daily usage from their 772 fleet.
