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Can I ask you where did you get the news? Do you know some more details? I don't find these flights extended into winter schedule on AA.com.
What about a 3rd route to FCO by AA? MIA is one of the most underserved market out of FCO, I'm sure the route need a direct flight.
What about a 3rd route to FCO by AA? MIA is one of the most underserved market out of FCO, I'm sure the route need a direct flight.
One can only dream. Miami based employees would love to see a new destination to Europe, especially Rome. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. If the news about Chicago and New York going year-round to Rome is accurate, it is excellent news for the bases. Also, it would be great if Milano would come back as the flight was very full year round (not sure what the yield was, but the passenger loads were always very heavy between Chicago and Milan).
Art Tang
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Confirmed!!
1 daily to Rome in the wintertime (JFK 3xw + ORD 4xw)
http://www.aa.com/content/amrcorp/pressRel...1/29_rome.jhtml
1 daily to Rome in the wintertime (JFK 3xw + ORD 4xw)
http://www.aa.com/content/amrcorp/pressRel...1/29_rome.jhtml
eolesen
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Just because there are passengers who want to go there doesn't necessarily mean it is profitable to carry them...
True.It is hard to believe though that the area of Milano and Torino,where the strength of the Italian economy is concentrated, cannot sustain profitable air travel especially given the bussiness traffic there.
TIME FOR CHANGE
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That would account for every destination we fly since it took massive concessions and 5 years to make a profit
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The problem is that Milan-USA business traffic is very heavily concentrated to two cities, New York City/Newark and Miami. It is the same problem that faces Madrid, as well. You have the strong banking and fashion industry ties with NYC, and strong fashion, boat manufacturing, and home desgin ties with Miami. Alitalia has those markets all wrapped up. JFK, EWR, and MIA are their only consistently profitable stations in North America. Alitalia's O'Hare-Milan flight is a very poor performer outside of June-August.
That's not all. Consider that Rome is by far the largest italian market from USA (and from Canada as well). Some lower yields or more seasonal on certain routes, but however a lot more O/D traffic than to Milan. Over 3 mil. people are flying every year between Rome and USA, only one half of them with direct FCO flights, the other half passing through other european gateways. And Rome is growing year by year both as leisure and business destination.
On the other hand, MXP flights to USA are on average "full" of transit traffic (60-65% transit and 35-40% local traffic) since the majority of these routes are provided by AZ, and MXP is their 1st hub. I think north american airliners look for local traffic at first on italian side, so you find the next summer DL flying with 5 daily flights to FCO and 2 to MXP, CO 2 to FCO and 1 to MXP , US with A333 to FCO and B762 to MXP, UA with 777 only to FCO, AA double daily to FCO, AC double daily to FCO. NW is also rumored to restart FCO in 2007 or in 2008 with A330. Are they all wrong?
Ok.That does not make it less hard to believe.
I have been wondering if the main reason for AA not to add new routes might be the lack of aircraft.
Delta has added( very succesfuly) ATL-ATH,and CO is ading EWR-ATH this summer.
As you pointed out many American cariers are adding MXP seasonaly.
Is it just the route profitability or also a lack of aircraft?
I have been wondering if the main reason for AA not to add new routes might be the lack of aircraft.
Delta has added( very succesfuly) ATL-ATH,and CO is ading EWR-ATH this summer.
As you pointed out many American cariers are adding MXP seasonaly.
Is it just the route profitability or also a lack of aircraft?
Milan is a difficult market, and carriers have not been adding Milan service at all lately. In the past few years, American Airlines, Northwest, and United have all pulled out of Milan, while Delta has cut frequencies on JFK-MXP. US Airways added service to Milan last summer, year-round. Milan is a business market, so year-round service is a must. No US airline flies there seasonally.
The previous poster let me to believe that some of the traffic to MXP and FCO was seasonal ...."you will find next summer ".
Since many other airlines have or are expanding in the area, why not AA?
No, it was only a comparison between FCO and MXP's summer schedule. It's a no sense flying seasonal to Milan, since mainly business destination, although there are some frequencies' reductions also to MXP in the fall by DL, CO, US (just like to several "secondary" european airports).
