FCFS Handicapping System

[Justme]

So I'm looking at a PHX-MCO flight on 9/25.  There are 7 D1Vs listed.  Under DOH boarding priority I could determine today if I was going to board prior to or after these 7 other folks.  With FCFS priority I won't know until 24 hours prior to departure.
 
I'm thinking that it would be helpful if we could somehow create a handicap system that would rank non-revvers on their check-in performance.  With such a system in place, I could easily see that my 7 competitors typically prefer to sleep in until noon and so they generally wind up in the bottom 10% of checked-in non-revvers.  On the other hand, if I am going up against 7 others that consistently rank in the top 2% I might consider an alternative such as Tampa or Fort Lauderdale.
 
Thoughts?  Could this system be created with some simple computer programming?  
 
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On a related note...and I'm still trying to figure out the D2G, D, R, E (too lazy to look them up)..if a 0700 departure from Boston and a 0630 PHX departure are both trying to transfer in CLT to the 1400 flight to XYZ, and if they both checked in at 24 hours in advance on the day prior to departure, does the lucky fellow from Boston board for XYZ ahead of the poor sap who lives in Phoenix?  
 
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What is your first impression of the AA NRPT?
 
To me it looks functional enough, but it looks like it was designed by the same person who brought excitement and pizzazz to the Radio Shack shopping experience.
 
I'm sure that it won't be long before I see that it is clearly superior to the ETC.  Have any of you LAA types visited ours?  What do you think?
 
Jim?  Jim?  Anyone?
 
 
 

 

[Ramp Rogue]

 
 
 
 
Additional Item #1
On a related note...and I'm still trying to figure out the D2G, D, R, E (too lazy to look them up)..if a 0700 departure from Boston and a 0630 PHX departure are both trying to transfer in CLT to the 1400 flight to XYZ, and if they both checked in at 24 hours in advance on the day prior to departure, does the lucky fellow from Boston board for XYZ ahead of the poor sap who lives in Phoenix?  
 
 
 
 
 

They can't both check in 24 hours prior to the flight. The passenger in BOS has an advantage because their 24 hour check in clock starts before the 24 hour check in clock for the passenger in PHX. The passenger from BOS will be in CLT probably before the passenger in PHX has gotten to the airport.

 

[Kev3188]

The passenger in BOS has an advantage...

The passenger that said "F this" and bought an ID20, or better yet a "real" ticket is the one with the advantage...

 

[john john]

app

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

They can't both check in 24 hours prior to the flight. The passenger in BOS has an advantage because their 24 hour check in clock starts before the 24 hour check in clock for the passenger in PHX. The passenger from BOS will be in CLT probably before the passenger in PHX has gotten to the airport.

 
Not trying to rain on anyone parade here, AA and it seems the court system has made the decision that FCFS will be the way things are going to be. You may not like it but it is what it is. 
 
When I was at LAX I could calculate the 3 hr difference and the system would let me check in my parents or kids if they were flying from an east coast city.
 
FCFS was in place many yrs ago at other carriers as well this system is not just an AA thing.
 
For you that are complaining about the new way think about it this way if you got to the airport and were at the gate ready to get your boarding pass and some one walked up at the lat minute and took your seat you would be mad then too. We all can check in at the same time 24 hrs before depending on your D1 D2 or D2r D2P or the USAirways code you will be place on the list with the time you hit the check in on the computer.
 
AA flights are full most of the time and I can assume that US flights are as well.
That is where you determine what classification you want to use. By the color of the numbers with our system you can see as well what chance you will have of getting on the flight.

 

[Pi brat]

Not trying to rain on anyone parade here, AA and it seems the court system has made the decision that FCFS will be the way things are going to be. You may not like it but it is what it is. 
 
When I was at LAX I could calculate the 3 hr difference and the system would let me check in my parents or kids if they were flying from an east coast city.
 
FCFS was in place many yrs ago at other carriers as well this system is not just an AA thing.
 
For you that are complaining about the new way think about it this way if you got to the airport and were at the gate ready to get your boarding pass and some one walked up at the lat minute and took your seat you would be mad then too. We all can check in at the same time 24 hrs before depending on your D1 D2 or D2r D2P or the USAirways code you will be place on the list with the time you hit the check in on the computer.
 
AA flights are full most of the time and I can assume that US flights are as well.
That is where you determine what classification you want to use. By the color of the numbers

with our system you can see as well what chance you will have of getting on the flight.

Not if you are a crew member and flying...

 

[nycbusdriver]

Okay....FCFS is here and the LUS employees will get used to it, despite the unfairness to crew members.  Obviously, we are employed to support the ground employees.
 
But has anyone noticed the disconnect on Parker's tapdancing when talking about all the changes?  "Well, we chose to go with the system used by most employees," in keeping with our "Adopt and go" strategy.   Okay, that's logical in its own way.  But then, why did they change the retirees' priority to the way the smaller carrier has been doing it?  What happened to "Adopt and go" for retirees?

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Not if you are a crew member and flying...

PI Brat
 
If you're a crew member you can fly either in the flight deck or the jump seat which members of the ramp/maintenance/agents can't do. 
 
Accept for coming to work you fly ahead of the rest of us if I am not mistaken.
 
Where you live and commute from is just like us your choice. for the most part.
 
You bid your station, routes, schedule. how you travel is on you, why should you get to fly above any one else because you decide to live out of state from your base.
"YES" I know some don't get that choice but after a while you must either move closer or cut your time at home short like all the rest of the employees.
 
As union employees seniority is all we have but that does not give us the right to crap on every employee and their families either. Being part of the flight crew does not make you any more important that any other work group although some think they are.
We all have a job that the airline requires us to do. FCFS across the board is fair for all. It isn't fair when you can put on your uniform and get on when ground employees can't.
 
So for all those time you and your counterparts did that it all even out if you have to wait like the rest of us for the next flight. Knowing the agents better has benefited you as well so don't deny that either. You have gotten better seats than ground employees as well.
 
With over 30+ yrs in the industry and many other carries, FCFS works best for all class and crafts, from pilots/F/A's/Agents/Fleet/maintenance and even management.
IMHO retired employees should fly behind working employees as well. Just as our parents do. And the friends who fly D3 or ZED fares should be at the bottom.
 
It works give it a chance, stop thinking about you and look at us all as equals.

 

[flyer63]

Oh boy,,, here we go. It's the pilots fault.... Us vs them... Give me a brake... By the way fcfs sucks... No other major airline uses the archaic system, and NYC bus is right.. AA sure has a lot of rules.

 

[Royal Ambassador]

Not if you are a crew member and flying...

Quit whining and use the JetAway app on your smart phone to check in. Most airplanes have WiFi nowadays.
 
FCFS is much better and fairer. You are a lot less likely to be bumped down at last minute. As someone who has used both systems, I much prefer FCFS.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Oh boy,,, here we go. It's the pilots fault.... Us vs them... Give me a brake... By the way fcfs sucks... No other major airline uses the archaic system, and NYC bus is right.. AA sure has a lot of rules.

 
flyer63
 
I never said Pilots I said if your flight crew which consists of F/A or Pilots, Pi Brat said flight crew.
 
So by your reaction you must be a pilot. Do you feel that you are better than the rest of us? You have ways in which you get on while you're in uniform in which the ground workers don't. So do the F/A's.
 
Whether you are an eastie or a westy you guys can't get along and now will be adding the AA Pilots to that mix. How is all that going to work for you as you transition from one aircraft to another (fleet type) left seat to Capt. chair.
 
Pass riding is a Perk, AA can do away with it, Each carrier has its way of doing things. 
As we all have merged carriers or changed companies the way the other company did things was better or worse depending.
 
From riding free in coach to the small fees we pay to ride first. To flying on another carrier, each set of rules if different. If we want to pass ride we deal with it or buy a ticket. just like all the rules the TSA has us jumping through as we go pass the security check points even though we all have been background checked just to get our badges.
 
Merging our two companies and insuring the integrity of our class and craft should be something more important than how we get on aircraft while the company is giving away the seats making it almost impossible to pass ride.

 

[AANOTOK]

Okay....FCFS is here and the LUS employees will get used to it, despite the unfairness to crew members.  Obviously, we are employed to support the ground employees.

Thanks busdriver, and I'm sure me busting my ass in the rain, wind and cold and working just as hard as you to get planes out on time and safely so I could see your work group get 10 times the profit sharing I did must have meant we were  there to support the pilots. Obviously!

 

[CactusPilot1]

Quit whining and use the JetAway app on your smart phone to check in. Most airplanes have WiFi nowadays.
 
FCFS is much better and fairer. You are a lot less likely to be bumped down at last minute. As someone who has used both systems, I much prefer FCFS.

The whining gets old after 9 years. You are correct FCFS is a fairer system. Those who are resisting have not even tried it. I had FCFS with HP and DOH with Airways. I reject BOARDING by ENTITLEMENT.

 

[blue collar]

Obviously, we are employed to support the ground employees.
 

Sad that you see things that way. You're there to support them the same way they're there to support you.

 

[dfw gen]

Okay....FCFS is here and the LUS employees will get used to it, despite the unfairness to crew members.  Obviously, we are employed to support the ground employees.
 
But has anyone noticed the disconnect on Parker's tapdancing when talking about all the changes?  "Well, we chose to go with the system used by most employees," in keeping with our "Adopt and go" strategy.   Okay, that's logical in its own way.  But then, why did they change the retirees' priority to the way the smaller carrier has been doing it?  What happened to "Adopt and go" for retirees?

lol. kinda full of yourself