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Get involved with your local. You seem to be very outspoken, and knowledgable. If you are not happy with the current agenda that your AFA ppl are working on, then step up to the plate and get involved. As Pitbull can tell you, in PIT we are getting some "new" blood. F/a's that are willing to get involved instead of sitting on the sidelines and complaining about the job that AFA is doing.As I posted elsewhere, according to Teddy, if it is not in the East or West contracts presently it won't be in the combined contract. Although, with the right representation of people not afraid of the change, it could be done. They (union) have changed things to benefit their own agendas when they were in concession negos. One thing was to have f/as going into inflight management positions lose seniority. Why??? It didn't save anything. Teddy and others felt that f/a who chose "company" over union should be punished. Bottom line. It was one persons agenda item. We can get a rotating reserve with "new" blood running the show.
As I posted elsewhere, according to Teddy, if it is not in the East or West contracts presently it won't be in the combined contract. Although, with the right representation of people not afraid of the change, it could be done. They (union) have changed things to benefit their own agendas when they were in concession negos. One thing was to have f/as going into inflight management positions lose seniority. Why??? It didn't save anything. Teddy and others felt that f/a who chose "company" over union should be punished. Bottom line. It was one persons agenda item. We can get a rotating reserve with "new" blood running the show.
Actually there have been several great supervisors who have gone back to the line becuase of this. I can think of at least one from every base! There is so little security in an airline at all, and even less without a seniority number.Has this been an issue? Do you really think this would stop a qualified person for applying for an inflight management position? Since this was put into place, has there been any people in inflight management that chose to go back to flying instead of giving up their seniority? Let me rephrase that, has the inflight department lost anyone worth anything because of this new rule?
yes there was, Peter P in PHL he was the best of the best!!!Has this been an issue? Do you really think this would stop a qualified person for applying for an inflight management position? Since this was put into place, has there been any people in inflight management that chose to go back to flying instead of giving up their seniority? Let me rephrase that, has the inflight department lost anyone worth anything because of this new rule?
Actually there have been several great supervisors who have gone back to the line becuase of this. I can think of at least one from every base! There is so little security in an airline at all, and even less without a seniority number.
Now - for all of us who have flown the line, would you rather have a supervisor who as worked a full 757 to the west coast, understaffed, with a snowstorm in Philly and a galley that is only half catered or a fresh college grad that has flown on an airplane once to spring break?
I'm not sure what Teddy and her cronies were trying to accomplish with this, but in the end, I promise we'll end up with clueless sups who bark at the minor details and have zero empathy.
Besides Jan Benard, who is still in inflght in PIT and a fair-minded sup, I found no supervisors that had any worth regardless whether they flew or not. In fact, they didn't want to fly and do everything in their power to hold those jobs and if that means being a "prick" of inflight, that is what they become especially in PHL. That is the way Jerry G has taught all of them from Director on down...specifically if they want to hold their jobs.
Hell, the worst of the bunches always got promoted in every concession.
And for your fyi...tedy did NOT write that language and was not part of the negotiating committee. Get your facts straight!
Like it or not it's a union reps job BY LAW to represent her membership. That she did it zealously makes her bad? I think the F/A in NC who produces a newsletter would beg to differ after the folks in CCY tried to set him up and fire him and Teddy was instrumental in getting his job back. When you become a union rep you must represent all of the membership even those who deserve to be fired. Sometimes you fight really hard for those who don't deserve it just to keep the "Glassholes" busy and build up support amongst the ranks for bigger battles.
If you want to talk about doing your homework, or about ignorance - do you have any idea what an inflight supervisor makes at US Airways? If a B scale flight attendant goes from the line to a sup position they make around $30,000.
Yes, I know Teddy. I also paid dues every month to support her salary. I also worked with F/A who I saw steal money on flights, then smoke weed on an overight. When they got fired, who got them their job back? Thanks for all that help Teddy - you've really made it a better place to work.
Besides Jan Benard, who is still in inflght in PIT and a fair-minded sup, I found no supervisors that had any worth regardless whether they flew or not. In fact, they didn't want to fly and do everything in their power to hold those jobs and if that means being a "prick" of inflight, that is what they become especially in PHL. That is the way Jerry G has taught all of them from Director on down...specifically if they want to hold their jobs.
Hell, the worst of the bunches always got promoted in every concession.
And for your fyi...tedy did NOT write that language and was not part of the negotiating committee. Get your facts straight!