FAA approves move by Atlanta-area airport opposed by Delta

[robbedagain]

according to that yahoo article regarding the 2nd airport   it would only be small nbr of flights to say MCO or SFB   not be a full blown ATL nbr 2

 

[Hope777]

WT said...3 of the 5 county commissioners that will take office after the first of the year have said they are against the proposal
 
WT I cant find a link that mentions this, or their names...  Please help I would love to read more about this.  Thx

 

[WorldTraveler]

this is the last paragraph in the Forbes article:


In a recent letter to DOT Secretary Anthony Foxx, three electees to the Paulding County Commission say they expect that when they take office in January, they will comprise a majority of the five-member board, and they would oppose the effort to create an alternate airport.

 

[Hope777]

And they are Whom?

 

[topDawg]

I think it's brilliant to add another airport - cities like New York, South Florida (MIA, FLL, PBI), LA area - this will help grow the Atlanta region economically - it's disappointing DL wants to hold ATL back

So basically G4 adding a hand full of less than daily flights to a airport out in the middle of no where is going to grow Atlanta's economy? 
 
Odd, The city and state are against this. The community is against it. You should be pissed that you government is willing to piss away tax dollars on this stupid idea...........
 
This isn't about Delta, its a terrible idea. ATL has more than enough room to grow. Just cause NYC and LA have a ton of airports doesn't mean Atlanta should. 
 

Hmm isn't this like the community that lives near DAL not wanting a mega airport in their back yard.... I LUV how you can push for unfettered access at DAL and want to prevent opening of a new airport for Atlanta because it would protect the community.

This airport will be nothing like DAL. PIE is a better comparison. Even that might be to much. 
 
The FAA is paying for G4 to have a its own Atlanta airport to fly to Florida from, basically.  
 

I would LUV to see this secondary airport get in.  They all say a need for a 2nd port way back in the 70's.  Now Delta is screamin not to get it along with the city of Atlanta.  Well of course the 2 biggest that will be affected the greatest will be against something that will actually benefit anyone flying into Atlanta. And of course Delta doesn't want any more competitors in Atlanta.  Gee, it would be the exact same thing we have over here in Dallas, the only difference is the ports in Atlanta would be a little further apart from each other.  

no "they" don't. Atlanta needs a second airport like i need someone to shoot me. 
 
Its just a huge waste of taxes (something the .gov is GREAT at). 
 
and this will be nothing more than a PIE type airport. The vast majority of flights will be less than daily ULCC flying to Florida. Why do we need another airport for that?  
 
oh and thanks to all the LUV WN is showing Atlanta more and more space is opening up as they tuck tail and run. Hey maybe they will move to this new airport and it'll be like Dallas. (ie to chicken s**t to play with the big boys at DFW) 

 

[eolesen]

I just have to laugh at the duplicity here... The local community, city and state were against repealing Wright, too.

And yet it happened.

 

[WorldTraveler]

it's only duplicity in your mind because DL has the support of the local community.

you could go all the way back to the fact that there was undoubtedly no support for WN to use DAL for commercial service after DFW opened but Herb hammered away, pushed his way into the market, and WN has continued to hammer away at expanding at DAL ever since.

And I doubt seriously that we have heard the last word - from either DAL or other entities.

I'm sorry for you that the world managed to learn from DAL and WN and manage their communities and their airports such that DAL is not repeated elsewhere.

Dallas, Paulding County, Georgia is not going to be a repeat of DAL.

If carriers can't compete at ATL, they won't serve the Atlanta metro area.

 

[swamt]

So basically G4 adding a hand full of less than daily flights to a airport out in the middle of no where is going to grow Atlanta's economy? 
 
Odd, The city and state are against this. The community is against it. You should be pissed that you government is willing to piss away tax dollars on this stupid idea...........
 
This isn't about Delta, its a terrible idea. ATL has more than enough room to grow. Just cause NYC and LA have a ton of airports doesn't mean Atlanta should. 
 
This airport will be nothing like DAL. PIE is a better comparison. Even that might be to much. 
 
The FAA is paying for G4 to have a its own Atlanta airport to fly to Florida from, basically.  
 
no "they" don't. Atlanta needs a second airport like i need someone to shoot me. 
 
Its just a huge waste of taxes (something the .gov is GREAT at). 
 
and this will be nothing more than a PIE type airport. The vast majority of flights will be less than daily ULCC flying to Florida. Why do we need another airport for that?  
 
oh and thanks to all the LUV WN is showing Atlanta more and more space is opening up as they tuck tail and run. Hey maybe they will move to this new airport and it'll be like Dallas. (ie to chicken s**t to play with the big boys at DFW) 

SWA not chicken s**t to play with the big boys at DFW, just plane smart.  The cost to operate at DFW is much, much greater than operating at DAL LF. Plus LF is just a couple of miles from the down town Dallas where the majority of all locations are for business travelers as well as leisure travelers, so the customers cost are also lowered as far as transportation to and from their destinations as well as their time which can be just as important.  I do agree with you about SWA moving to the 2ndary airport though it should and would probably be the same type of savings in the comparo of DFW and DAL LF.  Why do you think Virgin vacated DFW and moved all their flights to DAL LF?  Same reasons SWA won't go it's all about the savings and location...

 

[WorldTraveler]

Virgin moved to DAL because of the difficulty in competing with AA. they specifically have noted that.

 

[topDawg]

SWA not chicken s**t to play with the big boys at DFW, just plane smart.  The cost to operate at DFW is much, much greater than operating at DAL LF. Plus LF is just a couple of miles from the down town Dallas where the majority of all locations are for business travelers as well as leisure travelers, so the customers cost are also lowered as far as transportation to and from their destinations as well as their time which can be just as important.  I do agree with you about SWA moving to the 2ndary airport though it should and would probably be the same type of savings in the comparo of DFW and DAL LF.  Why do you think Virgin vacated DFW and moved all their flights to DAL LF?  Same reasons SWA won't go it's all about the savings and location...

Virgin moved for the same reason WN started at DAL. 
 
American Airlines. 
 
and I believe DFW has lower landing fees FWIW. It isn't cost, its WN being scared to play with the big boys. Any chance they can they run to another airport. Did it in Dallas, did it in Chicago....... 

 

[AirLUVer]

It is better to be a big fish in a small pond.

 

[topDawg]

It is better to be a big fish in a small pond.

I don't blame WN at all. For the most part when they try to go up against the big kids they get the crap kicked out of them. 
 
but its still chicken s**t. 

 

[LD3]

Now we know why the City of Atlanta is opposed, 
 
Development will allow the county to control the scale of the airport, he said. Atlanta still owns nearly 10,000 acres in Paulding County that it bought in the 1970s for a second airport. If the county doesn't develop its own field, the city could eventually build a major airport on that land, he said.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-faa-approves-move-atlanta-area-airport-opposed-005317048--finance.html;_ylt=A0LEV1Ufo2BUn30A1XhXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzNWp0ZGFsBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDI4M18x

 

[WorldTraveler]

it has been known for years that the city of Atlanta owned property to build a 2nd airport but DL is not in favor of developing that land either.

further, the city of Atlanta site has none of the approvals to proceed with development of a 2nd airport and would face the same fate as any other site.

given that DL has a significantly underutitized and far nicer facility 700 miles up I-75, DL could easily shift assets around its network if Atlanta decided they wanted to force the issue of a 2nd airport, even if they could get community approval.

DL doesn't want a 2nd airport, Atlanta is smart enough to stick with what they have rather than trying to go for something that will endanger that, and the communities in N. Georgia have all said they aren't interested in further airports.

just like PHL, ATL will be a one airport city.

 

[eolesen]

PHL is indeed a one-airport city, but your comparison overlooks the overlapping catchment areas of EWR/PHL and BWI/PHL.

From Trenton/Princeton and most of central NJ, it's just as easy to fly from EWR as it is from PHL. Less so for the folks in Wilmington, but it's still an option to head southwest.

You can't say that about ATL unless you look at BHM....