It is my understanding that the training for the EMB170 will begin this week for Customer Service and Fleet Service. Also FAM trips will begin the following week with Proving Runs Starting on the 22nd of March. Maybe Chip Knows different, but that is what I have found out so far. The future of PIT and USAirways is about to begin. I found it interesting that the 170 will fly thru IAH and MCO......
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Art at ISP
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Does anyone know if some US1's will be invited for a tour/test flight before intro?
Other airlines have done that when introducing new types.....
Couldn't hurt..
My best to you all..
Other airlines have done that when introducing new types.....
Couldn't hurt..
My best to you all..
Twicebaked
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They will fly, you can bet on that.
F/A training will begin on Monday with 36 F/As.
Also, US1's will not be invited.
This is not an arena for the public.
With all due respect, passengers have no need to be there until it goes into rev. flights.
F/A training will begin on Monday with 36 F/As.
Also, US1's will not be invited.
This is not an arena for the public.
With all due respect, passengers have no need to be there until it goes into rev. flights.
Light Years
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Hey Twice, do you happen to know if there will be a "show-off" session for employees? I'm excited to see one in the flesh myself (guess I'll have to wait).
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That's the most idiotic thing I've heard today; and the reason that we are going out of business. Our pax are THE most important. But most of U has forgotten that.Twicebaked said:
It's a great idea Art, but I imagine the "groupthink" won' t have it.
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ClueByFour
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Why not? We pay for the damn things to fly, and if MDA is like mainline when it comes to reserve, it stands to reason that many US1s will spend more time on the airplane than some of it's pilots and FAs....Twicebaked said:
Art at ISP
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Twicebaked,
Thank you for your statement of customer appreciation. With all due respect to you, in the past, other companies who value their most loyal customers, have invited a cross section of their most frequent customers to at least tour an airplane, and in some cases they have been able to correct some minor or major problems with configurations, etc. before entering service.
Maybe they don't see the need to do that here, but it would be nice.
I know you are bitter, but I am thankful that the vast majority of your colleagues don't see us as the enemy, as you apparently do.
And in case you haven't noticed, my flying friends and I are the ones thanking you for your excellent service and offering you words of appreciation and encouragement as we fly with you. Most of your colleagues enjoy talking to us, and care about us as we do about them.
On a closing note, my sincere thanks and best wishes to Kelly and her crew on 152 Friday night--they are a shining example of what's right with this company. (I hope that her colleague's new baby is doing well).
Perhaps you should take a better look at your customers, Twicebaked, before assuming that what goes on here is none of our business.
My thanks and best wishes to you ALL.....
Thank you for your statement of customer appreciation. With all due respect to you, in the past, other companies who value their most loyal customers, have invited a cross section of their most frequent customers to at least tour an airplane, and in some cases they have been able to correct some minor or major problems with configurations, etc. before entering service.
Maybe they don't see the need to do that here, but it would be nice.
I know you are bitter, but I am thankful that the vast majority of your colleagues don't see us as the enemy, as you apparently do.
And in case you haven't noticed, my flying friends and I are the ones thanking you for your excellent service and offering you words of appreciation and encouragement as we fly with you. Most of your colleagues enjoy talking to us, and care about us as we do about them.
On a closing note, my sincere thanks and best wishes to Kelly and her crew on 152 Friday night--they are a shining example of what's right with this company. (I hope that her colleague's new baby is doing well).
Perhaps you should take a better look at your customers, Twicebaked, before assuming that what goes on here is none of our business.
My thanks and best wishes to you ALL.....
Light Years
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Customer open houses for the A330, the 319/320, or the 321 would have been appropriate, but this isnt exactly a shining moment in US's history. From what we've seen, a great aircraft for customers and crew alike, but the circumstances surrounding it are far from joyous. It's confusingly branded (mainline plane, Express titles, Shuttle configuration) and its not something anyone's excited about (the final nail in the coffin for mainline US Airways, and the futher "regionalization" of pay scales for even larger aircraft)
I think U will just kind of slip this one into service, and use it to replace mainline flights as quietly as they have been for the last few years.
I really wish we were introducing this plane in a proud way. I'll give you a tour someday Art!
I think U will just kind of slip this one into service, and use it to replace mainline flights as quietly as they have been for the last few years.
I really wish we were introducing this plane in a proud way. I'll give you a tour someday Art!
Art at ISP
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Light Years,
Thank you for a thoughtful, honest reply. I did not take your points into consideration and in that regard I send my apologies. I was not considering the significance of this aircraft for other than operational issues.
I stand by the rest of what I said in regard to my feelings for the employees.
I will take you up an a tour some time--at a more happy and appropriate moment.
My thanks and best to you ALL.........
Thank you for a thoughtful, honest reply. I did not take your points into consideration and in that regard I send my apologies. I was not considering the significance of this aircraft for other than operational issues.
I stand by the rest of what I said in regard to my feelings for the employees.
I will take you up an a tour some time--at a more happy and appropriate moment.
My thanks and best to you ALL.........
Furloughd4now
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Correct me if I am wrong but until proving runs are completed and FAA issues Certification for US Airways use, passengers are not allowed onboard the a/c.
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Furloughd4now said:
That makes all kinds of SENSE !!! Who knows....Maybe they will still do something for the customers.....
I remember when CO was introducing their RJS.... I was working at a Travel Agency at the time and they did a FAM(Familiarization) Trip for Agents... They were switching their service from a 737 to a 50 Seater RJ.... I went with 2 co workers and they flew us to EWR and Back so we could see their New Terminal in EWR and experience the RJ....
It was an EXCELLENT Way for us all to have knowledge of this Product!!!!
Art at ISP
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You may be actually correct regarding regulations, but I think it only applies to actually flying--what's to prevent a guided tour of an aircraft on the ground?Furloughd4now said:
Again--perhaps this is not the right aircraft to offer it on in light of the labor issues, but as a marketing tool it could have been very valuable.
My thanks and BEST wishes to you all......
Furloughd4now
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key words here are "flew us". On the ground, you might be able to let pax on-board, but I'm pretty certain that for ANY flight .. revenue or non-revenue, FAM or otherwise, it needs to be after it has passed it's proving run and has been certified by FAA. I'm sure for this (the travel agents) FAM trip the plane had at that point been approved.
I am saying this because I worked for a company just last fall. We were qualifying a new a/c for FAA certification. During the actual proving runs, only "approved" employees were allowed on board the A/C (for a flight) because it had not yet been qualified by the FAA for ANY passenger.
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