- Aug 20, 2002
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Eric:
I understand that budgets are not easy to forecast. My original question, was what does Diversity cost? I expected for someone to reply with a simple "Last years budget was xxx dollars. That would have been simple enough. But many have posted nothing here but a bunch of BS that now has me and most likely plenty of those reading questioning the operation of the company as a whole. Your review of the process is rather informative.
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"I don't know of any corporation which budgets for anticipated discrimination lawsuits, or for handling grievances specifically related to diversity. The person who handles an overtime grievance is the same person who would handle a diversity grievance. You simply budget to have a person available to work the grievances when they occur."
So if you budget for a employee to handle these proceadures then you have starting place. But I see your point.
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"Diversity training for management is typically done at the same time as other HR related training for attendance/lost time control, PPC, and other company rules/regs. Sure, you could break out a line item for each of those if you want to, but the fact is that those are all HR related, so why segment the budget? I know that maintenance takes it to an extreme. They budget and track everything down to the tail number that it is used on. It's a little harder to do that with HR."
With the company in the position that it is financially, I as a employee expect those watching over the company to account for evey penny. As a stock holder, I expect every effort on the companies part to protect my investment.
Budget tracking my be a little hard to do but how do you answer for all of the misc. expense? How do you do taxes? And in Bankruptcy how do you account for these misc. items before a judge?
Flagship U. now there was an appropriate response. We own it and in brings in revenue.....
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"Buck, you're more than welcome to volunteer to sit thru a budget build. It has become a continual process the past two years"
I am not saying I could do your job and not asking you to do mine. It would seem that I have angered a few here over this subject. Some have become angered because of the word "Diversity" and others because they believe I am attacking their job. I just wanted to know in round numbers (even from last years budget) what Diversity cost. I am going to start a new thread. Are you ready?
I understand that budgets are not easy to forecast. My original question, was what does Diversity cost? I expected for someone to reply with a simple "Last years budget was xxx dollars. That would have been simple enough. But many have posted nothing here but a bunch of BS that now has me and most likely plenty of those reading questioning the operation of the company as a whole. Your review of the process is rather informative.
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"I don't know of any corporation which budgets for anticipated discrimination lawsuits, or for handling grievances specifically related to diversity. The person who handles an overtime grievance is the same person who would handle a diversity grievance. You simply budget to have a person available to work the grievances when they occur."
So if you budget for a employee to handle these proceadures then you have starting place. But I see your point.
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"Diversity training for management is typically done at the same time as other HR related training for attendance/lost time control, PPC, and other company rules/regs. Sure, you could break out a line item for each of those if you want to, but the fact is that those are all HR related, so why segment the budget? I know that maintenance takes it to an extreme. They budget and track everything down to the tail number that it is used on. It's a little harder to do that with HR."
With the company in the position that it is financially, I as a employee expect those watching over the company to account for evey penny. As a stock holder, I expect every effort on the companies part to protect my investment.
Budget tracking my be a little hard to do but how do you answer for all of the misc. expense? How do you do taxes? And in Bankruptcy how do you account for these misc. items before a judge?
Flagship U. now there was an appropriate response. We own it and in brings in revenue.....
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"Buck, you're more than welcome to volunteer to sit thru a budget build. It has become a continual process the past two years"
I am not saying I could do your job and not asking you to do mine. It would seem that I have angered a few here over this subject. Some have become angered because of the word "Diversity" and others because they believe I am attacking their job. I just wanted to know in round numbers (even from last years budget) what Diversity cost. I am going to start a new thread. Are you ready?