Dennis Burchette 1999 Re: Amfa

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Bob Owens said:
You keep on counting the years, we will keep counting the cards! See who stops first!
Bob,

I about fell out of my chair when I read that one.

Once again, you get the statement of the day award.
 
The card drive at MCI, is over, kaput, finished, no more takers, no more concerned with voting AMFA. The members here supporting AMFA realized that if these members mattered to Delle and AMFA, we would have had a rally, information meeting here, but thru the aid of this bulletin and another, we, the TWU supporters clearly showed a lack of concern by Delle as well as the Tulsa/Alliance Amfa group that the few that did sigh cards and vow to help AMFA have decided to withdraw their support and instead will vote to keep TWU, where as a member, we feel, we are heard, as Delle said, theres not enough interested at MCI for to spend money organizing, TWU feels different, TWU has been in contact with the members here,
So in effect, AMFA has lost, a guesimate would be, 90% of cards received from members here, most that did send cards now will switch their vote to TWU
 
Of course TWU has been in contact, they need your dues. As the affiliates of the AFL-CIO continue to leave seeking representation, the TWU will do whatever they are ordered to do.
 
Buck said:
Of course TWU has been in contact, they need your dues. As the affiliates of the AFL-CIO continue to leave seeking representation, the TWU will do whatever they are ordered to do.
Of course TWU has been in contact, they need your dues. As the affiliates of the AFL-CIO continue to leave seeking representation, the TWU will do whatever they are ordered to do


Buck, The point I was stating was that, Delle clearly stated that because of lack of card drive at MCI he would not spend any money promoting AMFA. With that being said and passed along to the AMFA supporters here, and Im sure you would feel the same, that if Delle doesnt feel the need to include the "AMFA faithfuls" at MCI, why should they continue to support AMFA? Sure Tulsa has more members, but also the drive for AMFA is failing miserably there also so why not try to bolster support from MCI? We beleive, AMFA failed to distinguish what they most needed, ........AMFA didnt gain at Tulsa and while promoting that drive he " stabbed his faithful supporters in the back at MCI
 
MCI AFL-CIO said:
Of course TWU has been in contact, they need your dues. As the affiliates of the AFL-CIO continue to leave seeking representation, the TWU will do whatever they are ordered to do


Buck, The point I was stating was that, Delle clearly stated that because of lack of card drive at MCI he would not spend any money promoting AMFA. With that being said and passed along to the AMFA supporters here, and Im sure you would feel the same, that if Delle doesnt feel the need to include the "AMFA faithfuls" at MCI, why should they continue to support AMFA? Sure Tulsa has more members, but also the drive for AMFA is failing miserably there also so why not try to bolster support from MCI? We beleive, AMFA failed to distinguish what they most needed, ........AMFA didnt gain at Tulsa and while promoting that drive he " stabbed his faithful supporters in the back at MCI
It should not be Delle that spends AMFA money ( the members ) on MCI or TUL or any station in the American Airlines system. It should be the grassroot effort of the workers to replace the representitive, because they have not provided the representation they are paid to provide. This from the Top down mentality must go. Under the AMFA constitution calls for the member to be on the top of the union structure.

So the position of MCI is that, it does not matter what type of representation you receive, but whether or not Delle personally needs you?

How do you feel about Sonny Hall not attending the TUL debates? Did Sonny Hall make a personal appearence at MCI to defeat AMFA?

There is one thing I want to make very clear.

This is not just about TUL and MCI, there are other stations in the system. We commonly refer to them as the line. (except AFW) It is they who will at some point in this process who will finally grow tired of the anti-union position of the TWU Local 514 and they will do what ever is required to continue their profession.
 
MCI AFL-CIO said:
Buck, The point I was stating was that, Delle clearly stated that because of lack of card drive at MCI he would not spend any money promoting AMFA.
Show me where Dell says AMFA is not interested in MCI. Actually a meeting is planned for MCI and from the jump in cards at MCI over the past 30 days, it is quite clear that the drive is anything but dead. But if you feel the need to make this your lie of the week for MCI, by all rights go ahead, because once again you will look like an ass by the end of the week. :shock: :shock:
 
Come to my playground....HAHAHAHAHA!

We at MCI can only wait for Alf and friends to show their face. Here's a clue mah bruddahs...this is NOT AFW...this is NOT TUL....*burpppppppppppp*..this is mah bruddahs MCIE...where men are men and women are too!

Please pass the hat for "notso cunning"HAM to attend...if ya come up a bit short I believe Connell or Brushwood will aide..HAHAHAHA..what a joke that fatboy turned out to be...

Cards are pouring in from MCIE?...you got to be the crack ho here...HAHAHAHA...Please come onto our floor and attempt to spew your non-sense...want a cane up yo bottomside?..HAHAHAHA

amfa and Alf are no concern here, those that think otherwise are as bright as the local organizers...HAHAHAHA
 
Looking forward to the MCI meeting. What kind of clown show will the twu do this time, so far your 0 for 2. Prediction, after the MCI meeting, the MCI card count will surpass 500. The truth always wins out and with liars like Earl leading the way, AMFA will prevail. See ya soon not so tough guy. :shock:
 
AMFAMAN said:
Show me where Dell says AMFA is not interested in MCI. Actually a meeting is planned for MCI and from the jump in cards at MCI over the past 30 days, it is quite clear that the drive is anything but dead. But if you feel the need to make this your lie of the week for MCI, by all rights go ahead, because once again you will look like an ass by the end of the week. :shock: :shock



TA, While I look for the letter stating Delle would not spend money organizing a drive a t MCI because of low interest, would you post here for us to see where He says he will com ehere to talk to membership?
Where or when is the meeting? Will it be billed again as TWA REUNION? swiming and beer party?
Why is it, AMFA cant seem to make apost without referring to name calling? ASS? Lies?
Would you be willing to admit that the AMFA shirts being warned are dropping? In fact, Dont you see more LOCAL 530 tshirts?
I will plan to go to the meeting, not to disrupt, but to hear information,
 
Buck said:
MCI AFL-CIO said:
Of course TWU has been in contact, they need your dues. As the affiliates of the AFL-CIO continue to leave seeking representation, the TWU will do whatever they are ordered to do


Buck, The point I was stating was that, Delle clearly stated that because of lack of card drive at MCI he would not spend any money promoting AMFA. With that being said and passed along to the AMFA supporters here, and Im sure you would feel the same, that if Delle doesnt feel the need to include the "AMFA faithfuls" at MCI, why should they continue to support AMFA? Sure Tulsa has more members, but also the drive for AMFA is failing miserably there also so why not try to bolster support from MCI? We beleive, AMFA failed to distinguish what they most needed, ........AMFA didnt gain at Tulsa and while promoting that drive he " stabbed his faithful supporters in the back at MCI
It should not be Delle that spends AMFA money ( the members ) on MCI or TUL or any station in the American Airlines system. It should be the grassroot effort of the workers to replace the representitive, because they have not provided the representation they are paid to provide. This from the Top down mentality must go. Under the AMFA constitution calls for the member to be on the top of the union structure.

So the position of MCI is that, it does not matter what type of representation you receive, but whether or not Delle personally needs you?

How do you feel about Sonny Hall not attending the TUL debates? Did Sonny Hall make a personal appearence at MCI to defeat AMFA?

There is one thing I want to make very clear.

This is not just about TUL and MCI, there are other stations in the system. We commonly refer to them as the line. (except AFW) It is they who will at some point in this process who will finally grow tired of the anti-union position of the TWU Local 514 and they will do what ever is required to continue their profession.
This from the Top down mentality must go. Under the AMFA constitution calls for the member to be on the top of the union structure.

Buck, Buck, Buck, My brother! So are you saying that the MEMBERS are responsible for what happens, they should have the voice? Then why were you soooooooo scared to debate the TWU MEMBERS????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

So the position of MCI is that, it does not matter what type of representation you receive, but whether or not Delle personally needs you?

I'm afraid you are giving Delle WAY, WAY, WAY too much credit there Buck!!


You preach a good sermon man but I'm afraid you don't practice what you preach! Delle didn't want anything to do with the TWU membership either. That was out of his own mouth. :shock:

You guys ARE playing follow the leader aren't you????????
:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Buck said:
Of course TWU has been in contact, they need your dues. As the affiliates of the AFL-CIO continue to leave seeking representation, the TWU will do whatever they are ordered to do.
Buck, if the TWU is all about dues, and therefore in contrast AMFA is not, WHY IS AMFA and Delle so eager to collect money?

If you are truely a grassroots/volunteer operation then why don't you function as one, works for the Boy Scouts and churches. Give a fund raiser once in a while.

If AMFA in Tulsa were to go a la, NWA and UAL, AMFADave and you can run the local out of a laptop.
 
There has never been an amfa movement at MCIE. There has been a couple of wannbe promoters talking over coffee about what "might have been".

after the MCI meeting, the MCI card count will surpass 500. The truth always wins out and with liars like Earl leading the way,

500...ya need to set attainable goals..HAHAHA....Liars??? Please state the lies you see he has stated. And ya want to call him a "not so tough guy" , did you face him with this revelation? Didn't think so biggun..HAHAHAHA

Currently your amfa organizers at MCIE are a joke...one is a concession stand owner and the other doesn't pay federal taxes...HAHAHAHA...oh pooh..did I forget the infamous loud mouth backboneless "Hacksaw"?
 
AMFAMAN said:
Looking forward to the MCI meeting. What kind of clown show will the twu do this time, so far your 0 for 2. Prediction, after the MCI meeting, the MCI card count will surpass 500. The truth always wins out and with liars like Earl leading the way, AMFA will prevail. See ya soon not so tough guy. :shock:
Looking forward to the MCI meeting. What kind of clown show will the twu do this time, so far your 0 for 2. Prediction, after the MCI meeting, the MCI card count will surpass 500. The truth always wins out and with liars like Earl leading the way, AMFA will prevail. See ya soon not so tough guy. :shock


TA, Now look who is threatening who? Did I miss something? Did someone threaten you or you felt threatened?
Clown show..........lets see, AMFA debate at Tulsa, TWU showed, Where was AMFA? Oh I see, The main players stayed in the lobby taking names and counting.
Prediction, after the no show AMFA meeting and I wonder, Is Delle coming? Didnt think so.
TA, just how many cards have been received from MCI in, the last month? last year? Im sure you can count that high,on one hand
 
Why is it ya'll like to type smack on Earl...but ya never express yo feelings to Earl? Could it be.....HAHAHAHA...ya type biggah than ya can act! Why not give ole Earl a projection of yo inner feelings....HAHAHAHA..that's what I thought...ya'll are as bold as amfa...shadow boxer ring a bell? Want some...get some.
 

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