Notice how AAs main PR STORIES are almost all exclusively done by either bad employee attitudes or not following procedures or a combination of both. It sure sound like the Rank and File are the problem (Well at least a certain percentage of them are).
Delta rescues group of 5th grade students after AA cancels their flight
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robbedagain
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Sounds like ur mgmt. Blame employees. Bad employees etc. U ever stop to think mgmt created the mess...like in CLT whereas the group of special needs kids got stuck in clt after their flight was cancelled due to "maintenance" issues. Yet mgmt creates policies some of which is designed to fail the employees. You ever stop to think if mgmt were to be similar to DL. UA. WN we might be happier employees?
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delta with another blow-out quarter..another $517 million added to profit sharing. delta at $1.256 billion for the year. 1 quarter left..
$265 million ahead of last year's pace of 14.1% of wages.
kudos and congrats to all.
$265 million ahead of last year's pace of 14.1% of wages.
kudos and congrats to all.
Fantastic! Congrats to all the Delta employees! This is good news for the 3rd Q results. Hopefully it continues for the rest of the industry.
Yea and AA will make millions to pay for those extra seats they just resumed on the Oasis project. So much for the customer experience they talk about.
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to me, the biggest difference between aa and delta is:
accountability & profit sharing. i believe they go hand in hand.
i realize that aa has to deal with unions, and using 'coaching' and then getting rid of hideous/nightmare employees sounds fascist...but, annually stuffing $12k-$18k into the pockets of FSCs & AMTs will quickly see the employees join the company's program.
I agree. Also with the wage increases that Delta has been giving out over the past several years is helping as well. The last bump put their mechanics at 53 all in rate. That is higher than almost all the other airlines and they know this will also help keep the drives down for unionizing. If I am not mistaken Delta AMT's are right behind us on the list for airline passenger. I am still in hopes of AA AMT's surpassing us in wages and hopefully retirement as well (401K and P/S).
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i hope so too...maybe the pay, but no chance on profit sharing/retirement.
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I agree no chance we get anything close to where they are profit sharing .
Yet you have certain ones ( shouldn’t be hard to figure who I’m talking about ) that come in here kissing the companies ass and blaming employees any chance they get
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Your number$ are still a little high, but your statement is dead on accurate. A legit PS program goes a long way for both building employee engagement, and as a productivity tool. Doesn't matter how pro labor you are, or if you're a Kool-Aid drinker- everyone wants to be on a winning team.
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I sincerely hope this turns out to be wrong- I can't think of a better way to never retire than to be stuck in the IAMNPF (LUS) and/or an anemic pension plan (LAA).
Let me rephrase that a bit. I hope they can gain in their retirement plans to get at least what they were promised with that fully funded, unfrozen pension plan as if were to be carried out for all to have in retirement. IOW's pad the 401K and adjust the P/S enough to equal what they would of had or better. No matter how the co. addresses it, it's all a write off in the books at the end of each year.
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my thought is: the company has a chance to raise morale/efficiency in one shot. do i think it will happen? no.
they can decide to reward us and then hold us accountable. i don't believe neither will occur, so...the numb feelings and mediocre numbers will continue - regardless of wages.
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can't speak for lus pension/iam pension.
i'm laa. my frozen pension will be anemic. $1,300+ per month.
i work with more than a few that had accrued enough time when the pensions were frozen and their pensions really weren't hit at all. $2400-$2500+ per month.
my AM guy started collecting social security late and if he retired tomorrow, would be getting $5k a month in social security + laa pension - not counting his 401k & other investments/assets.
he chooses to stay and not collect his pension, for now.
Cant understand that thinking. Hes probably losing money coming to work. Personally i have 6 years till 62 i think i have the medical bridge solved. Time will tell either way 62 and im gone.
