Daves Message For The Week

[ITRADE]

ITRADE,

That IS Traveler's point. You attempted to make some assinine comments about our labor structure and their CEO not ever wanting to deal with organized labor. NUCOR doesn't need to deal with unions as their employees have great working relationships, and fairness, and respect abound.

I figured Traveler could put you back in your rightful place.....

Oh they need to deal with it. There have been at least three or four organizing attempts - all of which have failed.

And, I think Traveler and I are actually having an informed dialogue, as opposed to your insults, vents, diatribe, and generally inane commentary.

 

[Traveler]

"Validation by a "second Opinion" Audit of the Corporate Model?"

Isn't that partially what the Morgan Stanley deal is all about? Everybody knows what the problems are, its what the solutions to the problems will be. Simply put, costs outstrip revenues.

I may have missed it. I thought Morgan Stanley’s services were for evaluating asset sales. Thought they were retained to valuate the Shuttle, Gates, Hubs and etc.

Thought they were retained to gauge interest and find potential suitors. The purpose for retaining Morgan Stanley, I thought, was to determine, alternatively, whether the sum of the parts are greater than the whole. A timely analysis to determine, whether it’s more cost efficient to close the doors rather than to stay in business while weighing the Company’s ability to service it’s ATSB debt obligations.

Was a coalition of Labor Leaders part of the selection process of Morgan Stanley? Is Morgan Stanley unbiased so as to provide analysis and validation which will help build that bridge of trust between Labor and Management?

I didn’t know Morgan Stanley was involved as a Transportation Management
Consultant. Do they provide objective analysis of transportation companies as well as provide suggestions for cost reductions and integrated solutions through analysis of complex alternative model structuring? Do they typically help their clients in the area of Strategic Planning and Business Management solutions? Is their finger on the pulse of the Industry and the Industry Processes?

Do they have the software and Business templates which will readily plug into USAirways Current Business Model in objectively determine if Management has effectively used the efficiencies and concessionary packages of Reorganization to maximize profitability given the tools they said they needed?

More importantly, going forward, does Morgan Stanley offer consultation advice on Business Vision, Unique Solutions to anticipated challenges, Passenger services solutions, Logistics solutions, Maintenance and Engineering, Marketing, Management Structures and Corporate Model Analysis?

Are these findings, after being sanitized for detailed strategic secrecy, going to be generally communicated to Employees in terms of Corporate Targets and Goals. Will Labor leaders be able to communicate to the rank-n-file that either a) Management has done the best they could therefore further concessions are necessary, or B) analysis has shown that Management has the tools they need with current existing contracts to obtain the productivity and efficiencies they need to become profitable – the just weren’t quite able to see the solutions ‘til now?

Will this mutually agreed upon Transportation Research and Analysis Group, help Bridge the gulf of Mistrust between Management and Labor once and for all? Do you think all might move forward from here in a cooperative effort to be not just profitable but a cutting-edge example of Corporate Harmony, Goal Oriented, Motivated achievers of industry excellence. Does this Research and Analysis Group provide recommendations on USAirways Business Structure, facilitating an Employee vested interist which will spur exponential advances in personal motivation, performance, excellence and trend setting service satisfaction ratings. Will this cooperative effort, as a consequence, offer investor confidence as well as Employee and share holder wealth?

Thanks, I’m eager to see Morgan Stanley’s Analysis! I think this is exactly what this Airline needs to turn the corner. It's comprehensive, Unbiased and... worthy of Employee dedication and "Trust".


... And how do you get all those little quote boxes to work like that in your posts?

 

[Traveler]

I have no idea where that little B) came from above.

 

[ktflyhome]

Traveler....I have been asking the exact same question. How does one get to box in the quotes. No one has explained it yet.

 

[Todd B]

ktflyhome, I tried to send you a private message but your inbox is full.

 

[Light Years]

I dont know how to either!

 

[Traveler]

I dont know how to either!

But your Avatars - "Rule"!

Liked the Babe in the Car best. Such Mystry in those eyes.

What software do you use to edit the clips?

Like remodeling a Corporation from the ground up, these Message Board format enhancement questions are important in building a foundation for a good exchange of constructive ideas on the predominant topic in this thread -- Ideas on how to bridge the gulf of mistrust.

(Trying to keep the moderator from snapping the ruler on our fingers for thread creep)

 

[ITRADE]

I may have missed it. I thought Morgan Stanley’s services were for evaluating asset sales. Thought they were retained to valuate the Shuttle, Gates, Hubs and etc.

Primarily yes, but part of that would necessarily be how each asset fits into the whole pie and the entire strategy of the entire concern.

I didn’t know Morgan Stanley was involved as a Transportation Management
Consultant. Do they provide objective analysis of transportation companies as well as provide suggestions for cost reductions and integrated solutions through analysis of complex alternative model structuring? Do they typically help their clients in the area of Strategic Planning and Business Management solutions? Is their finger on the pulse of the Industry and the Industry Processes?

AFAIK, they do most everything.

 

[Traveler]

AFAIK, they do most everything.

...But AFAYK, is it their specialty? ...And, Does this answer the question about how an independent objective audit will secure the trust of Employees that their financial sacrifice wasn't squandered. ... And, Can this audit reveal that Management has in fact done their best. ...And, Is there no recourse but to extract further concessions beyond what was agreed to less than a year ago. ...And, Did the Company, exclusive of a labor coalition, select this Auditor. ...And, Is this Auditor apt to contradict Executive accounts of it's best effort given the tools it said it needed. ...And, will this auditor, being commisioned by Management share it's critique of Management with Labor Leaders?

I think I'm beating it to death but not making my point clear.

Any rational individual wouldn't choose to destroy his/her life.

Therefore the Employees need to know, for Management's part, was every opportunity taken to modify the Business Model for maximum profitability and operational efficiency within the paramenters of contract agreements. Managements words are predictable and biased on the topic and therefore untrusted by Employees.

If not, can this be a starting point in which, Management may begin to modify the Business Model for maximum profitability and operational efficiency within the parameters of contract agreements. Managements words are predictable and biased on the topic and therefore untrusted by Employees.

If not, to what extent does an objective audit, determine the extent of additional prudent sacrifice by Employees is necessary given the phased implementation of operational enhancements in a new "Transformation" Business Plan. Managements words are predictable and biased on the topic and therefore untrusted by Employees.

The point is -- The employees are begging for a reason to trust Management. But Management has lost all credibility with Labor. Therefore either the executives leave or Management vidicates themselves by selecting an unbiased Transportation Management Consulting Firm - All with the coordination and cooperation of a Labor coalition.

Management telling labor there is a problem, isn't the problem.

Labor believing Management telling labor there is a problem, is the problem.

If Employees are to just take Management's words as truth, then the Employees should have allowed Management to hire it's own consultant to validate that Major Maintenance could be outsourced according to necessity and contract agreements. -- But it was an unbiased outside source who's judgments were understood and accepted as truth by the Employees.

If Employees are to just take Management's words as truth, then Employees should have allowed Management to hire it’s own consultant to validate that F/A furloughs are a necessity and within the constraints of contract agreements. – But it was an unbiased outside source who’s judgments and worthy considerations were understood and accepted as truth by the Employees.

There are literally Hundreds of points of contract agreements such as these which have been violated by allegement and which are scheduled for review by an unbiased outside review, evaluation and conclusive judgment – Which will be understood and accepted as truth by the Employees.

Management has buried itself in a sea of Mistrust. Mistrust which has been validated for the Employees by outside unbiased opinion. So with this pending crisis, is it prudent to demand that the Employees faithfully – “Believeâ€.

Unfortunately, and unlike the cooperative Corporate Cultures of other Airlines; The precedent for success and trust has been established between Management/Labor here at USAirways. The Labor Coalition and Management must have an expeditious, mutually agreed-upon, objective, outside audit, so that necessary judgments and worthy assessments of the requirement for additional Employee concessions are understood and accepted as truth by the Employees.

If you can convince the Employee that further sacrifice is indeed necessary with no alternative for survival, and that the plotted course of the new “Transformation†Business Plan will not further squander their additional contributions, then he/she will not prudently destroy their lives for spite of Management.

Is that not Clear and Reasonable?