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Anyone have any idea how many employees' are affected by this? What cities? This is ridiculous how they can postpone this again!!!
csa pay arbitration postponed yet again
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Aren't you jumping the gun a bit? We'll find out on January 18th whether or not anything may have been postponed, but I don't see how it could since it's a binding agreement between the company and CWA. The increase for agents at the top of the scale supposedly went into affect on January 1st.
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there was--key word WAS- a pay arbitration scheduled for many employees' that have not gotten one cent for the past few years. They are caught in a gray area-a typo?-in the contract so they are working next to a junior agent making more than them. It was originally scheduled for arbitration last May...then cancelled and rescheduled for January 18th...it has been postponed yet again. I am not jumping the gun-it has been postponed yet again. Am trying to find out how many stations out there have employees affected by this-no pay increase before and since the merger.
I dont know if its the *same* arbitration event, but we had several agents who went part time to full time and they started them over again on the pay scale. One went to supv and the other two quit.
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I dont think this is the same....but what you have posted makes no sense---what was the reasoning for them to do this? I hope they are fighting it??? Dare I ask if the union is assisting these poor folks?
This arbitration is for those employees that were newly hired 4 plus years ago and during the last bankruptcy the pay was frozen and somehow they were dropped a level below...but thier pay is still frozen to this day due to some typo....hard to explain but very sad for my co-workers involved. They have had to wrok next to employees junior to them whom are making more money per hour.
They were part time non EO positions and went to FT EO. They were already on the newhire scale, but the company said that since they went to FT and it was an EO position, that their date for yearly raises started again the date they got upgraded. One agent had only been part time for about 2 weeks so it didnt really bother him, but the other one was part time for 11 months and then had to start over. Thats *2* years without any kind of a raise at $8.72/hr. He quit and went to school and got another job somewhere else. The other guy works at WN now!
Which we all know wouldnt have passed if there werent so many people voting yes and hitting the road at the time. We had 19 alone in my station take the money and run. I know all of them probably voted for it just to get something to take with them since many were wanting out anyway.
LGA Fleet Service
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Mmmm... that dual dues harvesting operation is paying off handsomely for the membership isn't it?
Christ, starting over on the pay scale when going to F/T from P/T?
Christ, starting over on the pay scale when going to F/T from P/T?
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I'm going to blunt here and say this is absolute bullshit! There is definitely a gray area with our CWA contract and this ridiculous oversight needs to be amended! For cripes sake, what kind of incentive do we have to get anyone to work here? No wonder why we can't keep anybody. A 1 or 2 year part timer losing pay seniority because they opt to go to an EO full time position? Well, they were hired on as an EO, weren't they? Aren't all CSA NEW hires essentially in that category? So why do we penalize these people for wanting to advance themselves? This is just frigging absurd! :blink: <_<
Oversight! There are lots of oversights, if that's what you want to call them.
Here's another example: Part-timers pay 2x the rate for their medical coverage. So much for a union looking after worker! The company, wanting to cut salaries, offered a smaller pay=cut for all, and made up for the rest of the pay cuts they sought by doubling part-timers' insurance costs. In effect, mgmt reached their original pay demands by doubling part-timers' medical insurance costs, rather than via deeper hourly pay-cuts for all.
Such "oversights," (screws, really) target many sub-groups of employees, who, really, had no voice during negotiations. Many "oversights" were ignored by the CWA for expediency. When a contract was presented for vote, it was either thumbs up or down and forget all the inconvenient details the contract may have included.
Here's another example: Part-timers pay 2x the rate for their medical coverage. So much for a union looking after worker! The company, wanting to cut salaries, offered a smaller pay=cut for all, and made up for the rest of the pay cuts they sought by doubling part-timers' insurance costs. In effect, mgmt reached their original pay demands by doubling part-timers' medical insurance costs, rather than via deeper hourly pay-cuts for all.
Such "oversights," (screws, really) target many sub-groups of employees, who, really, had no voice during negotiations. Many "oversights" were ignored by the CWA for expediency. When a contract was presented for vote, it was either thumbs up or down and forget all the inconvenient details the contract may have included.
leprechaun
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You are correct. For the second time, the Corp attorneys said they were not ready, and for the second time the CWA said OK. Maybe they should consider their dues paying members, who are continuing to scrape by on meager wages.
New date has been rescheduled for March 7, 2008. Our local posted in the boards yesterday. Notice stated that an AFA attorney was scheduled to present our arbitration? Looks like another arbitration being set up to lose! With all the dues we pay out to our Union why would we have someone from AFA backround hearing a multi-million dollar case? The AFA doesn't and hasn't ever given a rats arse about us, they can't even get a T/A in place with their own employees. Whose brilliant idea was this anyway?
Send a email to your SO CALLED UNION LEADERS. To let the company postpon this is just another spinless act by this union. This is in refrence to the 14 month pay freeze that the company imposed in April 2006 that the east agents are under it's not right. We have handed out info to members so they can send a letter or email to you union voicing your concerns about this and other issues. Please email or write if they hear from their member how unhappy we are maybe they will get nervous. Their are other unions that would love to ge tour dues.
