CLUES INDICATIVE TO AN UPCOMING MERGER
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I think a UA US merger would have less blood letting than any others because most of the routes that the two have overlap with have already been purged. We also have the partly merged res stuff with the code share. I am sure management would make cuts to employees (that is all they know how to do) But in the end I believe this would be the less painfull merge for both US and UA.
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Something's rotten in Denmark and it's not just their cheese.
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Agree with you that the shuttle will stay with UAL, but I disagree with you about IAD-DCA. In the last US-UA merger attempt, one of the excuses given for its failure was the monopoly of the DC market, with US having a dominant presence at BWI and DCA, and of course UAL with its large hub in IAD. Consumers, it was said, would have no choice but to fly on the merged carrier. Fast foward to present day and the situation has changed with SWA having a major hub/base in BWI. Since US divested BWI to SWA, the government cannot make the same argument since consumers now have a choice to fly on SWA, the wal-mart of airlines (of course, always with the lowest price...) out of the DC metro market.
So, long story short: should be no problem.
Since the failed 2000 merger, the previous administrations at US pared it down even more so to United's missing piece. They closed thier BWI hub reducing Washington presence, pretty much closed the redundant PIT hub, parked all fleets that would have been oddball (McDonnell Douglas and Fokker), quickly turned themselves into a formidable Carribbean presence, and grew transatlantic ops, all weak spots in UA's network. Not to mention the physical airline itself, US Airways Inc, is only half the size it was in 2000.
The current administration though, I don't know. They need to watch "Sell This House" or "Flip This House" or one of those shows. You pretty something up when you are trying to sell it or make a deal. Wolf was an expert at this. He arguably changed the airline's image from a monopolistic short haul airline with poor service to a global, high standard, businessman's airline. He made it attractive.
The current US Airways is a moneymaker but is regarded as the Britney Spears of the industry. One hot mess with a continued series of entertaining but sad blunders. Does any other carrier find US to be an attractive partner, or want to be a part of it? The PHX hub is attractive to some carriers (not so much UA IMO), and LAS is really more attractive to a low cost carrier than any of the legacies. Maybe it's the arrogance of this mgmt that they assume they will be running the deal- we saw this with the hostile takeover attempt of Delta.
The current administration though, I don't know. They need to watch "Sell This House" or "Flip This House" or one of those shows. You pretty something up when you are trying to sell it or make a deal. Wolf was an expert at this. He arguably changed the airline's image from a monopolistic short haul airline with poor service to a global, high standard, businessman's airline. He made it attractive.
The current US Airways is a moneymaker but is regarded as the Britney Spears of the industry. One hot mess with a continued series of entertaining but sad blunders. Does any other carrier find US to be an attractive partner, or want to be a part of it? The PHX hub is attractive to some carriers (not so much UA IMO), and LAS is really more attractive to a low cost carrier than any of the legacies. Maybe it's the arrogance of this mgmt that they assume they will be running the deal- we saw this with the hostile takeover attempt of Delta.
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Uh, Costco would be a much better analogy, best pay, most revenue per sales unit. wal-mar would best be compared to AWA.
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It will be OK.. AWA is gonna save NW and NW will be gratefull for it.
Are you gonna educate them on the meaning of binding arbitration? Just aking...
Tiger 1050
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Hey! I forgot. How did you guys do in the arbitration? I have to assume you got everything you wanted. Ya know, 'cause we are not even in the same league...
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WRONG...UA PILOTS ARE ALPA = date-of-hire
UA F/A'S ARE AFA = date-of-hire
I believe the WEST pilots would have to worry since they are not ALPA, if they were included in the UA merger it may be a Staple anyway. WEST f/a's would benefit greatly. IMHO
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Tell me you are joking. Seriously, that is the king of uninformed posts!!! ALPA, and UA pilots for that matter, is not DOH. AWA pilots are ALPA. There is no excuse for being that poorly informed. Especially since you are frequenting these boards...
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This will make your head spin....Delta hires former NWA boss as the new CEO of DELTA (as of August 21, 07)
Richard Anderson is new CEO. S--T, this stuff is crazy. DL/UA/US/NWA and all run by DoUgIe the golden boy!!
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Excellent point. Costco pays there employees well and still makes money, HUM?
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