Cell phone use in the air

[Travels2mch]

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06075/670573.stm

I don't relish the thought of being on a plane with 100 chatting people, in fact I enjoy the downtime that nobody can reach me.

I'd be interested to know the flight attendants thoughts on this comment:
"Sometime within the next year, airlines will likely being training flight attendants on how to instruct passengers on proper seat chatter procedures and etiquette."

Anybody know if US is planning to allow this??

 

[GroundedBoricua]

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06075/670573.stm

I don't relish the thought of being on a plane with 100 chatting people, in fact I enjoy the downtime that nobody can reach me.

I'd be interested to know the flight attendants thoughts on this comment:
"Sometime within the next year, airlines will likely being training flight attendants on how to instruct passengers on proper seat chatter procedures and etiquette."

Here are my 3 chatter procedure and etiquette guidelines:
1)Stop talking so damn loud. This is not a f :censored: g ball park!! :angry:
2)You better turn you phone off before I shove it up your a :censored:
3)I'll just sit back and watch other passengers fight with each other over whos talking loud or other stupid reason :jerry:

I beleive there should be safe havens were cel phone don't work. Airplanes and Subways are some of them. And some damn fool whants to change that. I wish they would put a cel phone signal blocker at restaurants. There is nothing more that pisses me off than me trying to have a nice conversation over dinner with someone and the a :censored: hole next to you have his celphone , pager, and walkie talkie going off. :rant:

 

[jimntx]

May I just open a vein now?

Not only is it coming, I foresee that within the first two weeks a f/a will get injured/written up/sued by passengers fighting over who has the right to talk loudest on their oh-so-friggin-important phone call.

We have the largest economy in the history of the world. We reached that distinction BEFORE cell phones and laptop computers even existed. How did we manage to do that when people were out of touch with their offices/family/
boyfriends/etc. for hours (or even days) on end?

I get quite amused in flight, when I see the guys (and gals) that get on with their laptop computers that they just HAVE to have near them at every moment. (No sir, the FAA does not permit you to put your laptop in the seatback pocket or hold it in your lap for taxi, takeoff, and landing. I'm sure it will be fine in it's fine Corinthian leather case that you put in the overhead bin along with your overstuffed rollaboard and your winter coat that would keep you warm in Siberia.) For every one of them that actually works with the laptop, there are 5 who play Solitaire or Mah Jong on the computer, the entire time.

 

[flyin2low]

It won't happen.

 

[SKY HIGH]

It won't happen.

sky high states: "Boarding rows 21 through 31, the cellphone section."

 

[jimntx]

It won't happen.

Oh yes it will. The FAA does not have the political guts to prevent it. Look at the luggage issue. No one, not the ticket counter agents, not the TSA, not the gate agents feels they have the power to actually stop someone with more bags than the "allowed."

We play the game that a laptop computer bag balanced precariously in the top of a tote bag on top of an oversize purse counts as "one small personal item" simply because the bearer is able to get onto the jetbridge holding only the straps on the tote bag. When that passenger reaches row 26 on an MD-80 and has already separated her belongings into 4 carry-on items (which, of course, ALL have to go in the overhead bin because she doesn't want anything at her feet), it's too late to try and control the number of carry-ons.

 

[ItsNotThatSerious]

It won't happen.

I sure hope not!!!

 

[2clippedwings]

I am dead set against this possibility. Inflight fights amongst passengers. F/A's trying to get people to listen to briefings. These days people are so self absorbed. I wince having to listen to phone conversations people have just to feel important. I am not impressed nor are the 20 other people sitting around them. Will someone please stop throwing me into the role of police officer/prison guard? Will the public please exercise good judgement?
I remember the days so fondly before cell phones and lap tops and air phones, electronic games etc. I also remember the days when I could tell the passenger what I COULD do for them or give them instead of telling them no, turn it off, I don't have any, etc.
Stop the insanity. The rules in effect now are about the far end of the boundary for me.
Rant off.

 

[Travels2mch]

Here are my 3 chatter procedure and etiquette guidelines:
1)Stop talking so damn loud. This is not a f :censored: g ball park!! :angry:
2)You better turn you phone off before I shove it up your a :censored:
3)I'll just sit back and watch other passengers fight with each other over whos talking loud or other stupid reason :jerry:

I vote for #1 and #2!!
I use my cell a lot and do conduct business remotely, but there is a time and place for everything, and a confined compartment in the sky is not the place. Imagine 50 or so teenagers "chatting like for hours like with their friends like......" I say after 5 minutes, they are escorted to door 1L....best wishes and bon voyage!! :angry: Keep the rules regarding this the way they are now.

 

[N965VJ]

Sometime within the next year, airlines will likely being training flight attendants on how to instruct passengers on proper seat chatter procedures and etiquette.

That’s the most absurd thing I’ve read in a long time. If you treat people like little children, they will act accordingly.

Intermodulation either is or is not an issue. Cellphones transmit a signal even if no one is talking on it. That’s why you have a dead battery when you land in LAX. Add to that all the other gizmos that are not being used but still on. Don’t expect a definitive study until something big and expensive gets broken.

Does anyone remember the short period after a September morning when the phone was part of the solution?

 

[jimntx]

That’s the most absurd thing I’ve read in a long time. If you treat people like little children, they will act accordingly.

Cellphones transmit a signal even if no one is talking on it. That’s why you have a dead battery when you land in LAX.

Maybe, but you were supposed to have turned it off when instructed. If you had done this, your battery would not be dead. Off does not mean just with the wireless part turned off. Off means off. For takeoff and landing, children are not even supposed to have their Gameboys on.

Does anyone remember the short period after a September morning when the phone was part of the solution?

And, in a similar situation I doubt anyone would fault you for turning your cell phone back on--as the f/a did. She probably had no idea whether or not her phone would work. She was just trying it as a possibility. That also says a lot about how low they were already flying. Most cell phones can't get a signal much above 5,000 feet without some sort of on-board booster as is being proposed.

But, the issue is not safety. I'm quite sure that the safety of cell phone use will be thoroughly tested before the rule is changed. The issue is the disruption of people talking louder and louder to make themselves heard over the other people shouting on their cell phones. The ambient noise in the cabin from the engines and wind is not going away. I know from my own experience that it is hard enough to hear on a cell phone when just taxiing after landing.

And, the poor people who actually want to sleep and will have to listen to "Girl, no she didn't. No, she didn't. Don't tell me that. Oh no, she didn't." (Repeated ad nauseum for 2-3 hours) Think of the amount of paperwork the f/as will have to complete after mass murder takes place in the air.

Oh god, I just had another horrible thought. How do we handle the ones who lock themselves in the lav for an hour while they carry on the conversation they can't hear out in the cabin?????

That’s the most absurd thing I’ve read in a long time. If you treat people like little children, they will act accordingly.

Well, considering we already have to referee between "adults" who insist on their right to recline their seat as far as it will go even on a full flight and those "adults" who insist it is their right to cross their legs and brace their knee against the seatback in front of them to prevent the occupant from reclining at all, what makes you think we won't have to referee between two "adults" who insist that is their Constitutional right (and theirs alone) to talk as loud as they want/need to.

Have you not been to a movie theater in the past few years and have someone answer a ringing cell phone right in the middle of the movie and carry on a conversation?

 

[usflyguy]

just say no to cell phones. enjoy the down time while u have it. once the aircraft is on the ground talk all you want!!!!!!!!

 

[N965VJ]

Maybe, but you were supposed to have turned it off when instructed.

Yes, but sometimes I’m stoopid and forget. Ironically, the phone will increase its output signal trying to find a cell site during climb out – a Critical Phase of Flight.

And sometimes the laptop doesn’t shut down properly when I close the lid. Then you have some woman’s battery powered, um, toothbrush, the gets turned on inadvertently in the luggage.

Think of the amount of paperwork the f/as will have to complete after mass murder takes place in the air.

I was in the aft galley and did not witness the alleged event.

Well, considering we already have to referee between "adults"

Exactly. The absurd thing is some penguin is going to dream up some sort of procedure to be taught at next year’s Recurrent. I already know how to break up fights. Is someone going to write silly PA announcement for everyone to read?

Have you not been to a movie theater in the past few years and have someone answer a ringing cell phone right in the middle of the movie and carry on a conversation?

I hate movie theaters; they won’t let me smoke or drink beer in there. So instead I just hotwire the cable box in my hotel room.

 

[Travels2mch]

I hate movie theaters; they won’t let me smoke or drink beer in there. So instead I just hotwire the cable box in my hotel room.

Me too.......would you mind teaching me how to do that??

 

[rjh]

I predict that not only will it happen, but most of the people that are currently complaining about it . .will still use their cell phones in flight.

A lot of people complain about others that use cell phones while driving, or in the store, etc ..but yet most people do that very thing!