Bobby Gless
- Thread starter Hopeful
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If the IAM is any example the AGC out of ORD went directly to his masters like a good lapdog and was given a management job instantly. He also let his "brothers" and "sisters" hang in the wind causing much lost money and careers by failing to move grievances forward in the correct manner!
Industrial pretend "unionist" will always run for cover if they get forced to come back and live under the concessions they sell to members. They also know they cheated us so they have no courage to face us! Another pretend unionist who was appointed as a Flight Safety man worked less than a week and quit to work for American Eagle.
Industrial pretend "unionist" will always run for cover if they get forced to come back and live under the concessions they sell to members. They also know they cheated us so they have no courage to face us! Another pretend unionist who was appointed as a Flight Safety man worked less than a week and quit to work for American Eagle.
Johnny Lunchbox
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- Feb 28, 2004
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Hey Hopeful, I understand Bobby used to box, perhaps he'll go back to the ring.Want to be his sparring buddy? Why not ask him since you're so concerned about his future.
And let's talk about future Hopeful. You are so ready to change your AMFA vote all over the TWA seniority issue, sounds like you're a diehard AMFAite...yeah right, just another soul after his own gains.
And let's talk about future Hopeful. You are so ready to change your AMFA vote all over the TWA seniority issue, sounds like you're a diehard AMFAite...yeah right, just another soul after his own gains.
Will Bobby Gless return to the floor after AMFA wins the election?
YES................................ [ 3 ] [15.79%]
NO.................................. [ 16 ] [84.21%]
Total Votes: 19
Hey Hopeful. . .nice try with the poll and all but amfa won't win the election. . .if it even comes to a vote!!
YES................................ [ 3 ] [15.79%]
NO.................................. [ 16 ] [84.21%]
Total Votes: 19
Hey Hopeful. . .nice try with the poll and all but amfa won't win the election. . .if it even comes to a vote!!
James T. Kirk
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- Apr 9, 2003
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So James T. Kirk how is that card collection going at NWA? Should be easy with "how badly AMFA represents everyone"! When are you people going to learn liars always are shown to be simple minded scammers who have no factual info and resort to lies to manipulate people.
There is no card collection at NWA (or any other carrier) because AMFA is doing the job of being a union and the vast majority are very happy with AMFA! Make up some more baseless lies because simple logic will prove you wrong again. Your need to lie also demonstrates very clearly you feel members are fools to be herded around with rhetoric and fear.
There is no card collection at NWA (or any other carrier) because AMFA is doing the job of being a union and the vast majority are very happy with AMFA! Make up some more baseless lies because simple logic will prove you wrong again. Your need to lie also demonstrates very clearly you feel members are fools to be herded around with rhetoric and fear.
De-cision 2004
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- Mar 17, 2004
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"AMFA IS NOT THE ANSWER"
Ken MacTiernan
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Depends on what the question is.De-cision 2004 said:
If the question is: Will AMFA sell out the membership?
Will AMFA become a toy union?
Will AMFA turn into a undemocratic, unaccountable union?
Then the answer certainly is what you posted.
Now, if I was to ask what is the most undemocratic, unaccountable, self serving, dues sucking, international appointed (unelected), industrial union in the airlines the answer would certainly be the twu. With the iam a close second.
"AMFA IS NOT THE ANSWER"
You are 100% correct! AMFA is not the answer BUT it is the tool we are using to take back control of our union and correct 50 years of backsliding in our craft. We suffer today due to ever increasing levels of lapdog unionism by people who have no vested interest in our craft or our future. These industrial unionist worry only about dues collection to feed bloated bureaucracies and about retaining power and control firmly in the hands of an unelected, unrecallable, and in fact untouchable elite of appointed for life insiders.
The death of industrial unionism is mandated by the very fact they crush any opinion other than what the unelected elite dictate. There is no opposition with industrial unionism because the structure prevents it. Without a diverse opinion any organization will fail. The small voice of opposition is where greatness starts. Deny this avenue of change and your organization will stagnate on tunnel vision.
AMFA is not "the answer"... AMFA is us! We get to decide! We choose our future and choose how best to get there. The simplistic power of this concept is lost till you experience it. What these people really mean when they say, "AMFA will fail (or has failed)" is confirm the fact they think we are not worthy to control our own future... because there is NO AMFA... AMFA is US!
Leaving the smoothering clutches of an industrial union that only sees you as a meal ticket to be maniplulated and spun with fear and rhetoric is like drowning in a puddle only to realize all you had to do is stand-up and walk away to breathe freely. Stand Free and use AMFA to find real change in how we are treated, respected, and rewarded for our contributions to the exceptional level of airworthiness and safety our companies utilize to conduct business!
You are 100% correct! AMFA is not the answer BUT it is the tool we are using to take back control of our union and correct 50 years of backsliding in our craft. We suffer today due to ever increasing levels of lapdog unionism by people who have no vested interest in our craft or our future. These industrial unionist worry only about dues collection to feed bloated bureaucracies and about retaining power and control firmly in the hands of an unelected, unrecallable, and in fact untouchable elite of appointed for life insiders.
The death of industrial unionism is mandated by the very fact they crush any opinion other than what the unelected elite dictate. There is no opposition with industrial unionism because the structure prevents it. Without a diverse opinion any organization will fail. The small voice of opposition is where greatness starts. Deny this avenue of change and your organization will stagnate on tunnel vision.
AMFA is not "the answer"... AMFA is us! We get to decide! We choose our future and choose how best to get there. The simplistic power of this concept is lost till you experience it. What these people really mean when they say, "AMFA will fail (or has failed)" is confirm the fact they think we are not worthy to control our own future... because there is NO AMFA... AMFA is US!
Leaving the smoothering clutches of an industrial union that only sees you as a meal ticket to be maniplulated and spun with fear and rhetoric is like drowning in a puddle only to realize all you had to do is stand-up and walk away to breathe freely. Stand Free and use AMFA to find real change in how we are treated, respected, and rewarded for our contributions to the exceptional level of airworthiness and safety our companies utilize to conduct business!
Decision 2004
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- Mar 12, 2004
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They are so confident, that they must now resort to alias and identity tricks.De-cision 2004 said:
This must be a ploy to be able to claim they were AMFA all along after the ballot tally.
