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There you have it!
That's what executives tell one another!
"Because we are better than union people!"
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There you have it!
That's what executives tell one another!
"Because we are better than union people!"
TWU informer
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Go ask the Feds, wasn't there a new law passed recently that makes it a crime to anonimously annoy someone on the 'net?
Well thats the textbook version, reality is far more complex.
With more MBAs than ever before the textbook also says that executive pay should be declining, not going up. When supply exceeds demand the price goes down.
In what percentile do airline profits rank? Clearly these people are not underpaid.
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Historically, or just the past five years?...
From 1982 thru 2000 had earned a cumulative $6.8B in profits. Cumulative losses between 2001 and today wiped that out and then some...
Code:
Loss Profit Cumulative
1982 20 -20
1983 228 208
1984 234 442
1985 345 787
1986 279 1066
1987 198 1264
1988 477 1741
1989 455 2196
1990 40 2156
1991 240 1916
1992 475 1441
1993 110 1331
1994 228 1559
1995 162 1721
1996 1016 2737
1997 985 3722
1998 1314 5036
1999 985 6021
2000 813 6834
2001 761 6073
2002 1228 4845
2003 3511 1334
2004 1762 -428
2005 861 -1289So yes, in a period of just five years, AMR has lost more money than it earned over the past 22 years. But it will "only" take $1.3B in profits (or another year like 1998) to tip the balance back to profitability.
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Symantec (Norton Anti-Virus and others) no doubt compensated him for what he won't get in the way of a stock payout.
At least he won't be compensated for failure.
At least he won't be compensated for failure.
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According to what I've. This isn't a matter of loyalty or anything near that. It seems he's just loking out for #1 and goin for the big bucks. I'm mean $2.5 mil signing bonus ain't that bad. Hell I'd jump to K-mart if they offerd me $150K + $300K signing bonus. Adios to all my colegos at AA.
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Hey, if you want to make $150K per year, just become a union official...
http://www.unionfacts.com/unions/unionOfficers.cfm?id=221020
Name Title Salary Benefits
& Other Total
Compensation
H Hall President $ 213,108 $ 13,691 $ 226,799
J Kerrigan Sec Treasurer $ 207,233 $ 7,102 $ 214,335
M O'brien Exec Vp $ 207,233 $ 5,071 $ 212,304
D Rosen Atty $ 206,567 $ 681 $ 207,248
L Martin Admin Vp $ 149,631 $ 15,343 $ 164,974
H Snead Exec Council $ 149,631 $ 14,030 $ 163,661
M Bakalo Vice Pres $ 146,433 $ 15,493 $ 161,926
P Wiedman Cope Director $ 137,216 $ 20,112 $ 157,328
J Little Admin Vp $ 149,631 $ 4,364 $ 153,995
H Lombardo Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 11,240 $ 153,656
R Tauss Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 10,755 $ 153,171
J O'donnell Acctg Director $ 142,416 $ 10,006 $ 152,422
R Wechsler Ed Director $ 143,606 $ 8,402 $ 152,008
T Grandfield Organizer $ 137,216 $ 13,316 $ 150,532
J Bland Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 5,627 $ 148,043
J Gannon Twu Expr Editor $ 138,194 $ 9,804 $ 147,998
J Orlando Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 4,451 $ 146,867
G Maslanka Intl Rep $ 127,016 $ 19,699 $ 146,715
G Roberts Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 3,574 $ 145,990
G Yingst Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 2,056 $ 144,472
G Drummond Intl Rep $ 137,216 $ 2,977 $ 140,193
C Moneypenny Rrd Director $ 138,137 $ 0 $ 138,137
C Martin Exec Board $ 121,231 $ 11,351 $ 132,582
S Resch Exec Council $ 121,231 $ 9,315 $ 130,546
J Conley Staff Rep $ 121,231 $ 7,005 $ 128,236
J Gordon Intl Rep $ 121,231 $ 3,991 $ 125,222
G Mcdonald Exec Board $ 108,033 $ 7,866 $ 115,899
N Scotland Admin Secy $ 109,323 $ 1,330 $ 110,653
K Robertson Research Dir $ 103,405 $ 2,286 $ 105,691
D Burton Asst Editor $ 105,390 $ 0 $ 105,390
F Albach Admin Secy $ 96,604 $ 2,042 $ 98,646
B Uckele Admin Secy $ 96,604 $ 0 $ 96,604
M Borisuck Admin Secy $ 96,604 $ 0 $ 96,604
F Trotti Organizer $ 70,784 $ 12,523 $ 83,307
F Mccann Jr Organizer $ 77,450 $ 3,612 $ 81,062
J Carbon Organizer $ 77,450 $ 157 $ 77,607
R Ashley Comm Coord $ 77,134 $ 0 $ 77,134
A Mccormack Asst Acctg Mgr $ 76,632 $ 0 $ 76,632
J Osborne Organizer $ 70,784 $ 2,372 $ 73,156
R Gless Intl Rep $ 55,860 $ 16,976 $ 72,836
S Roberts Organizer $ 70,784 $ 1,056 $ 71,840
B Williams Secy $ 53,820 $ 14,814 $ 68,634
C Williams Admin Secy $ 68,438 $ 0 $ 68,438
C Winslow Admin Secy $ 67,150 $ 372 $ 67,522
J Hayden Mail Mgr $ 66,149 $ 0 $ 66,149
A Leary Bookkeeper $ 56,151 $ 0 $ 56,151
N Campbell Bookkeeper $ 54,108 $ 0 $ 54,108
L Vargas Bookkeeper $ 53,922 $ 0 $ 53,922
K Avants Secy $ 53,819 $ 0 $ 53,819
L Hartness Secy $ 53,819 $ 0 $ 53,819
H Mahoney Secy Recep $ 49,338 $ 0 $ 49,338
L Roman Secy Cope $ 46,523 $ 249 $ 46,772
K Proctor Per Capita Clerk $ 46,458 $ 0 $ 46,458
P Rodican Secy Recep $ 45,382 $ 0 $ 45,382
C Steelman Secy $ 44,633 $ 0 $ 44,633
M Murphy Secy $ 23,744 $ 0 $ 23,744
T Walters Secy Recep $ 20,566 $ 0 $ 20,566
B Clarke Exec Council $ 0 $ 5,233 $ 5,233
L Caramitru Secy Recep $ 4,936 $ 0 $ 4,936
D Burchette Exec Council $ 0 $ 3,901 $ 3,901
R Holley Vice Pres $ 0 $ 3,543 $ 3,543
E Mcleod Vice Pres $ 0 $ 3,108 $ 3,108
G O'hanlon Admin Secy $ 3,104 $ 0 $ 3,104
J Whalen Exec Council $ 0 $ 2,595 $ 2,595
M Tutrone Exec Board $ 0 $ 1,771 $ 1,771
M Curran Exec Board $ 0 $ 1,564 $ 1,564
J Pajewski Exec Board $ 0 $ 1,251 $ 1,251
R Adams Exec Board $ 0 $ 1,010 $ 1,010
R Romaine Exec Board $ 0 $ 744 $ 744
S Delgado Exec Board $ 0 $ 266 $ 266
http://www.unionfacts.com/unions/unionOfficers.cfm?id=221020
Name Title Salary Benefits
& Other Total
Compensation
H Hall President $ 213,108 $ 13,691 $ 226,799
J Kerrigan Sec Treasurer $ 207,233 $ 7,102 $ 214,335
M O'brien Exec Vp $ 207,233 $ 5,071 $ 212,304
D Rosen Atty $ 206,567 $ 681 $ 207,248
L Martin Admin Vp $ 149,631 $ 15,343 $ 164,974
H Snead Exec Council $ 149,631 $ 14,030 $ 163,661
M Bakalo Vice Pres $ 146,433 $ 15,493 $ 161,926
P Wiedman Cope Director $ 137,216 $ 20,112 $ 157,328
J Little Admin Vp $ 149,631 $ 4,364 $ 153,995
H Lombardo Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 11,240 $ 153,656
R Tauss Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 10,755 $ 153,171
J O'donnell Acctg Director $ 142,416 $ 10,006 $ 152,422
R Wechsler Ed Director $ 143,606 $ 8,402 $ 152,008
T Grandfield Organizer $ 137,216 $ 13,316 $ 150,532
J Bland Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 5,627 $ 148,043
J Gannon Twu Expr Editor $ 138,194 $ 9,804 $ 147,998
J Orlando Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 4,451 $ 146,867
G Maslanka Intl Rep $ 127,016 $ 19,699 $ 146,715
G Roberts Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 3,574 $ 145,990
G Yingst Vice Pres $ 142,416 $ 2,056 $ 144,472
G Drummond Intl Rep $ 137,216 $ 2,977 $ 140,193
C Moneypenny Rrd Director $ 138,137 $ 0 $ 138,137
C Martin Exec Board $ 121,231 $ 11,351 $ 132,582
S Resch Exec Council $ 121,231 $ 9,315 $ 130,546
J Conley Staff Rep $ 121,231 $ 7,005 $ 128,236
J Gordon Intl Rep $ 121,231 $ 3,991 $ 125,222
G Mcdonald Exec Board $ 108,033 $ 7,866 $ 115,899
N Scotland Admin Secy $ 109,323 $ 1,330 $ 110,653
K Robertson Research Dir $ 103,405 $ 2,286 $ 105,691
D Burton Asst Editor $ 105,390 $ 0 $ 105,390
F Albach Admin Secy $ 96,604 $ 2,042 $ 98,646
B Uckele Admin Secy $ 96,604 $ 0 $ 96,604
M Borisuck Admin Secy $ 96,604 $ 0 $ 96,604
F Trotti Organizer $ 70,784 $ 12,523 $ 83,307
F Mccann Jr Organizer $ 77,450 $ 3,612 $ 81,062
J Carbon Organizer $ 77,450 $ 157 $ 77,607
R Ashley Comm Coord $ 77,134 $ 0 $ 77,134
A Mccormack Asst Acctg Mgr $ 76,632 $ 0 $ 76,632
J Osborne Organizer $ 70,784 $ 2,372 $ 73,156
R Gless Intl Rep $ 55,860 $ 16,976 $ 72,836
S Roberts Organizer $ 70,784 $ 1,056 $ 71,840
B Williams Secy $ 53,820 $ 14,814 $ 68,634
C Williams Admin Secy $ 68,438 $ 0 $ 68,438
C Winslow Admin Secy $ 67,150 $ 372 $ 67,522
J Hayden Mail Mgr $ 66,149 $ 0 $ 66,149
A Leary Bookkeeper $ 56,151 $ 0 $ 56,151
N Campbell Bookkeeper $ 54,108 $ 0 $ 54,108
L Vargas Bookkeeper $ 53,922 $ 0 $ 53,922
K Avants Secy $ 53,819 $ 0 $ 53,819
L Hartness Secy $ 53,819 $ 0 $ 53,819
H Mahoney Secy Recep $ 49,338 $ 0 $ 49,338
L Roman Secy Cope $ 46,523 $ 249 $ 46,772
K Proctor Per Capita Clerk $ 46,458 $ 0 $ 46,458
P Rodican Secy Recep $ 45,382 $ 0 $ 45,382
C Steelman Secy $ 44,633 $ 0 $ 44,633
M Murphy Secy $ 23,744 $ 0 $ 23,744
T Walters Secy Recep $ 20,566 $ 0 $ 20,566
B Clarke Exec Council $ 0 $ 5,233 $ 5,233
L Caramitru Secy Recep $ 4,936 $ 0 $ 4,936
D Burchette Exec Council $ 0 $ 3,901 $ 3,901
R Holley Vice Pres $ 0 $ 3,543 $ 3,543
E Mcleod Vice Pres $ 0 $ 3,108 $ 3,108
G O'hanlon Admin Secy $ 3,104 $ 0 $ 3,104
J Whalen Exec Council $ 0 $ 2,595 $ 2,595
M Tutrone Exec Board $ 0 $ 1,771 $ 1,771
M Curran Exec Board $ 0 $ 1,564 $ 1,564
J Pajewski Exec Board $ 0 $ 1,251 $ 1,251
R Adams Exec Board $ 0 $ 1,010 $ 1,010
R Romaine Exec Board $ 0 $ 744 $ 744
S Delgado Exec Board $ 0 $ 266 $ 266
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Er huh, you mean TWU Company Union Sell-Out, not "Union Official".
Your list disgraces the term "Union Official"
And thats not including what American Airlines illegally pays them!
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In addition, I have seen documents that indicate that the expense accounts are usually much higher than their salary.
Yes the new union-busting website brought to us by our union-busting President and Wal-Mart trash.
BTW...That's 2004 income and way less than what Little made in 2005...
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Technically, it's your list, not mine.
Worse, it's your money going in their pocket, Bob's unfounded allegations of illegal payments aside for a moment.
Want to see something worse? Pull up the salary list for ALPA.
One thing I have to give OV credit for is that he's pulling down only twice what the average wage seems to be.
Yeah and that's part time too, cuz they sure as hell aren't working overtime to protect our incomes...
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