And the best transcon airline is...

[WorldTraveler]

and yet DL just said that their profitability on the JFK transcons has improved.

let me know when AA says the same thing.

whether you or anyone else finds me credible or not really doesn't matter.

What does matter is that I have repeatedly and correctly noted a number of major trends including regarding where AA's strategic plans are going - and which have been confirmed over time.

in this case, I argued before and will continue to say that it is doubtful that AA's costs have fallen faster than the change in its revenues in the transcon markets.

 

[FWAAA]

I don't know why you're fabricating numbers / data.  Again.
Especially since you've already been been corrected by FWAA at least a couple times but you keep on repeating stuff like a parrot.
Previously AA had 9 daily 767s on JFK-LAX with 1152 econ seats.  The 13X A321s have 936 econ seats. 
Reduction of 19%.  Not 1/3.
 
Gee. I gotta wonder if you have a narrative that you're trying to push here?

Exactly. No wonder he was kicked off airliners.net. He pretends to post facts when in fact he often spews false, fabricated and made-up BS masquerading as fact. And like you posted, when caught and called out on his lies, he spins like a child's top, rarely admitting his error. Why? That's how pathological liars roll.

 

[737823]

WT why does DL feel the need to "give away product" (your words) on the JFK-SEA market? They are the only carrier offering it and SEA isn't a traditional premium transcon market like LAX & SFO.

Josh

 

[WorldTraveler]

WT why does DL feel the need to "give away product" (your words) on the JFK-SEA market? They are the only carrier offering it and SEA isn't a traditional premium transcon market like LAX & SFO.

Josh

huh.... it is a key route that feeds DL's Pacific hub. you really didn't figure that out.

Exactly. No wonder he was kicked off airliners.net. He pretends to post facts when in fact he often spews false, fabricated and made-up BS masquerading as fact. And like you posted, when caught and called out on his lies, he spins like a child's top, rarely admitting his error. Why? That's how pathological liars roll.

and you could only wish that I wasn't able to ask the tough questions here either.

the simple fact remains that neither you or AA have been able to demonstrate that the 767 to 321 strategy will change revenue more favorably than the change in costs.

19% or 33% isn't likely to change the answer on even a 40% increase in the number of flights which offsets a large chunk of the supposed cost savings.

how about you focus on answering those questions instead.

 

[737823]

I get its a key route for DL but why are they giving away extra service and cushy seats (only some flights) if no other carrier offers it? Your position is DL gives away less, not more, right?

Josh

 

[WorldTraveler]

because it connects to a hub which offers business elite service on every longhaul int'l flight.

You can't expect passengers to fly 6 hours across the country and choose DL when 1/3 of the trip is on a substandard product compared to what is offered out of the hub.

it is the VERY SAME reason why AA offers premium cabin service on key flights to/from its hubs including MIA... and I have never said that was wrong.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

and you could only wish that I wasn't able to ask the tough questions here either.
... ... ...
how about you focus on answering those questions instead.

 
The so-called "tough questions" is really WT-speak for "deflection" to another topic(s) when caught with faulty math or fraudulent statements.

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, the defection is coming from you and others who can't seem to reconcile AA's strategies with the financial realities.

feel free to use YOUR OWN NUMBERS to show why AA's transcon strategy makes sense - they just have to agree with what is publicly available - and most of the data here involved is public.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

I have quantifiable data that can be made public that WT has no life and whiles away his days on this message board, posting what is more or less the same old saw on every thread created.

 

[silverbird007]

Maybe he/she was rejected by AA at one time, and is "getting back" ?

 

[FWAAA]

because it connects to a hub which offers business elite service on every longhaul int'l flight.

You can't expect passengers to fly 6 hours across the country and choose DL when 1/3 of the trip is on a substandard product compared to what is offered out of the hub.

it is the VERY SAME reason why AA offers premium cabin service on key flights to/from its hubs including MIA... and I have never said that was wrong.

Similarly, I believe that a couple of daily LAX-PHL flights could be flown with lie-flat seats, as PHL will probably have more nonstop European destinations than JFK. I'm not talking about a full slate of 10F/20J transcon 32Bs, but perhaps lie-flats on the Eastbound redeyes and an Eastbound morning flight or two would be sensible. LAX-PHL is one route where US has been attracting fairly high O&D fares.

 

[WorldTraveler]

And yet what you can't do is show that or how AA's performance on the transcons is improving

While true from a revenue standpoint FWAAA the problen in any market is that costs go up far higher than any revenue benefit

 

[robbedagain]

because it connects to a hub which offers business elite service on every longhaul int'l flight.You can't expect passengers to fly 6 hours across the country and choose DL when 1/3 of the trip is on a substandard product compared to what is offered out of the hub.it is the VERY SAME reason why AA offers premium cabin service on key flights to/from its hubs including MIA... and I have never said that was wrong.

or they cld choose to connect to another airline who may have far better service rather than sticking w delta

 

[737823]

Similarly, I believe that a couple of daily LAX-PHL flights could be flown with lie-flat seats, as PHL will probably have more nonstop European destinations than JFK. I'm not talking about a full slate of 10F/20J transcon 32Bs, but perhaps lie-flats on the Eastbound redeyes and an Eastbound morning flight or two would be sensible. LAX-PHL is one route where US has been attracting fairly high O&D fares.

I disagree on PHL, I think BOS is more likely on 222/143. Especially with B6 bringing Mint in. The demographics and AA premium passenger loyalty is much stronger in BOS.

Josh

 

[traderjake]

I have quantifiable data that can be made public that WT has no life and whiles away his days on this message board, posting what is more or less the same old saw on every thread created.

 
Would that data include 13,000 posts?