AANOTOK
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AMR purchases 22 more jets
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AA767JET
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Job threats, possible RIF's, base closures, Line station downgrades, don't want to pay up what they took from us, Low moral everywhere because no one knows where they will be in October but AMR is buying new RJ's and coming up with not 550 million not 900 million BUT 1.1 BILLION DOLLARS for the JAL deal, Wow what a slap in the face to all there front line employees, The employees who make this all possible, what a great company to work for 
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I heartily suggest you quit smoking that crap since you're probably subject to drug testing - at least, share ...
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.. hence the addition of "share" - sarcasm back at ya!!
With these 22 new planes plus the 25 existing CRJ-700s, Eagle will offer 47 large RJs configured with first class - something UA has done at ORD in a much bigger way for several years now. Most of the 47 will be based at ORD to directly compete against UAX and its much larger fleet of first-class equipped large RJs.
If Eagle is going to fly longer routes formerly flown by mainline planes (and let's face it, that's been happening now for nearly 20 years), it's a little more tolerable if there are some roomy seats up front. Might attract some better revenue.
That said, it's too bad AA bought into the loser CRJ-700 more than 10 years ago instead of waiting a while for the ERJ-170/175 or 190/195, considered by customers to be vastly more desirable.
If Eagle is going to fly longer routes formerly flown by mainline planes (and let's face it, that's been happening now for nearly 20 years), it's a little more tolerable if there are some roomy seats up front. Might attract some better revenue.
That said, it's too bad AA bought into the loser CRJ-700 more than 10 years ago instead of waiting a while for the ERJ-170/175 or 190/195, considered by customers to be vastly more desirable.
SkydrolJunkie
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Job threats, possible RIF's, base closures, Line station downgrades, don't want to pay up what they took from us, Low moral everywhere because no one knows where they will be in October but AMR is buying new RJ's and coming up with not 550 million not 900 million BUT 1.1 BILLION DOLLARS for the JAL deal, Wow what a slap in the face to all there front line employees, The employees who make this all possible, what a great company to work for
This is Eagle folks. Yes, they are owned by AMR, but seperate airlines. Hell, Eagle is likely to be making money, I don't know. And maybe hiring, who knows.
True. Besides, don't its employees already work for much lower slave wages than comparable AA employees?
And while we're fact-checking, AA767JET should know that the bulk of the $1.1 billion for the JAL bailout is coming from TPG, not AA.
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Not new news that's old news!!!!!!!!!
I hear this three months go!!!!!!!
They're buy new planes B787 and receiving new ones (737-8)!!!!!!
Nothing wrong with that!!!!! As long as they don't buy companies or merge with them!!!!!!
One them will keeps jobs and other eliminate jobs!!!!!
Or you want AMR to farm out those flts to other regional?
They want Eagle to better compete with other carriers regional's that offer first class!!!!
They don't pay upto they get delivery of each A/C!!!!!!
Also they make Eagle more buy able for a spin off!!!!!!
The wrong thing is giving a bankrupt company money specially big money!!!!
Truly they're finding money for many other things other than their employees!!!!!!
I hope some that spending they're doing comes to us the employees in a pay raise!!!!!!
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Just about every analyst and their barber will tell you that in an environment of $2 to $3 per gallon jet fuel and widespread (and growing) influence of low cost carriers the 50 seat and under RJ is uneconomical on many of the routes they currently fly. That's why about every legacy carrier is moving to larger RJ's. So I see this as an investment in the longer term health of AMR. If anything, as FWAAA said, AMR is late to the "bigger RJ" party than some of it's competitors (although that may at least partially due to the pilot's scope provisions - I don't know enough about the AA pilot's contract to know).
Besides, AMR most likely not end up laying out the $700 million in cash these airplanes represent - they'll probably do a sale/leaseback or EETC transaction. If they could do the same with employees - shift the cash outlay to someone else and pay it back over time - it would probably be easier for the employees to get raises.
Jim
Besides, AMR most likely not end up laying out the $700 million in cash these airplanes represent - they'll probably do a sale/leaseback or EETC transaction. If they could do the same with employees - shift the cash outlay to someone else and pay it back over time - it would probably be easier for the employees to get raises.
Jim
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Not much less now that AA employees took concessions. But I can only speak for Acft Mechanics.
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I agree with some it. AA is buy them to offset some of their fuel cost but A/C will be 44 seater. They want the high yield customers!!!!!!
BoeingBoy
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That means a lot of FC seats - nearly the entire cabin used for FC. UA puts 6 FC seats and 28 E+ seats on their CRJ700 and still has room for 32 regular coach seats, making 66 seats. Even with the E+ section used for FC there would be something like 54 total seats and that's using about 2/3 of the cabin for FC.
So is that 44 seat number definite and if so how many FC seats?
Jim
AE is scoped at 47 70 seaters. No more. They did have 25, but a recent senile arbitrators decision ruled that a secret verbal agreement between AMR and Bombardier to keep 22 options open was valid, even though they had apparently expired according to the terms APA contract.
The new airplanes will be configured at 66 seats I think, with a FC section. Regardless of a little wider seat (hard as heck BTW), it's still a cramped, crappy little airplane just like all the RJs. For the coach pax, it just reminds them how cramped they really are.
The new airplanes will be configured at 66 seats I think, with a FC section. Regardless of a little wider seat (hard as heck BTW), it's still a cramped, crappy little airplane just like all the RJs. For the coach pax, it just reminds them how cramped they really are.
