Amfa Press Release

[twuer]

Flyguy, I just remembered where I saw it. I got it in an email from our local and I remember deleting it just a few days ago. You might be able to pull it up on the Star Telegram (I believe that was the newspaper) web site. Sorry, I don't remember the exact date.

I figured it was common knowledge. Try there first and if you don't get it there maybe you could contact the local.

 

[twuer]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE MAY 27, 2004

FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT:

O. V. Delle-Femine, National Director
603-527-9212

Terry Harvey, Assistant National Director
810-223-1540

AMFA ACCUSES AMERICAN AIRLINES WITH ELECTION INTERFERENCE
WITH THE ACQUIESCENCE OF THE NATIONAL MEDIATION BOARD

Laconia, NH – May 27, 2004 – On March 12, 2004, the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association filed with the National Mediation Board (NMB) for a representational dispute election on American Airlines (AA). Since AMFA’s filing, the NMB has started its investigation to determine whether a sufficient number of authorization cards have been submitted by AMFA. During March of 2002, the NMB confirmed that approximately 16,500 mechanics and related personnel were represented by the Transport Workers Union of America (TWUA) in its dismissal of a representational election between the TWUA and the International Association of Machinist and Aerospace Workers (IAMAW – AFL-CIO).

In March 2004, AA submitted eligibility lists of employees in the mechanics and related craft/class totaling 18,698. However, as mentioned above, it was determined in March 2002 during the dispute between the IAMAW – AFL-CIO and the TWUA – AFL-CIO concerning the election of the combined mechanics and related at American Airlines (AA) and Trans World Airlines (TWA), that there were only a total number of 16,500 employees. In addition, the airline industry has been in an employment downturn since September 11, 2001. Therefore, there is no conceivable justification to believe that AA has expanded its workforce by 2,198 mechanics and related personnel. AA’s claim of eligibility lists of 18,698 is ridiculous and a violation of the NMB Rules. As a result, the NMB should utilize Section 17.0 – ALLEGATIONS OF ELECTION INTERFERENCE due to the exceptional and extraordinary circumstances surrounding the upcoming election.

To further support AMFA’s claim, Terry Harvey, Assistant National Director, has proven documentation that reflects that over 2,000 employees on AA’s eligibility lists are not valid employees. For example, the eligibility lists include:

• Deceased or retired AA employees;
• Deceased or retired TWA employees who died long before AA’s acquisition of TWA;
• AA and TWA employees who have resigned or refused to return to work after being recalled;
• AA and TWA employees who have resigned and took employment with other airlines;
• Fleet Service Clerks who are not in the Mechanics and Related Craft/Class;
• AA management personnel, Stock Clerks and Ticket Agents not in the Mechanics and Related Craft/Class;
• TWA employees who never established an employee relationship with AA;
• TWA and AA employees who were dismissed prior to passing their probation; and
• Employees listed more than once on the eligibility lists.

The purpose of the NMB, an independent, neutral federal agency, is to oversee and correct any abuse during the election process. Thus far, the NMB has not admonished AA for its misleading eligibility lists. This lack of responsibility, at the very least, shows ineptitude on the part of the NMB in protecting its credibility and representational rules.

AMFA plans to picket the NMB on June 1, 2 and 3, 2004 at its office at 1301 K. Street, NW, Suite 250 E, Washington DC, to protest NMB’s lack of concern for the mechanics and related personnel at AA.

AMFA, an independent, craft-oriented union not affiliated with the AFL-CIO, represents more than 18,000 aircraft technicians and related personnel in Alaska Airlines, American Trans Air, Atlantic Coast Airlines (Independence Airlines), Horizon, Mesaba Airlines, Northwest Airlines, Southwest Airlines, and United Airlines. AMFA believes in open negotiations where all officers are elected and can be recalled by its membership. This democratic process is unique in the airline unions.

To learn more about AMFA, visit www.amfanatl.org.



Safety in the Air begins with Quality Maintenance on the Ground.

Well, I heard you managed to get abut 25-30 folks (and that's being generous!!) for your picket! WOW!!!! Now that is strong amfa support!!!!!!! I guess you told them. Can't wait to see what day 2 and day 3 bring!!!!


Can't wait to see the pictures Dave!!!

 

[Stop the Bus..I Want Off!!]

Well, I heard you managed to get abut 25-30 folks (and that's being generous!!) for your picket! WOW!!!! Now that is strong amfa support!!!!!!! I guess you told them. Can't wait to see what day 2 and day 3 bring!!!!


Can't wait to see the pictures Dave!!!

twuer......and what are you doing to help the cause?? Sitting on your A$$ eating popcorn and drinking those free sodas down at the hall? The AMFA folks you try so hard to discredit are the ones that will inevitably bring back the "RESPECT" our profession once had. The ole' AMFA boys have more backbone than any twu wannabe I've ever met. I will always be embarassed to be associated with the twu!!! The one thing you twu wannabes got right so far is the mention of the next drive if this one doesn't fall through. If the NMB is on any kind of level playing field, WE WILL HAVE OUR ELECTION and the twu WILL BE REPLACED!!!!!!!

Keep the Faith......VOTE AMFA!!!!!!!!

By the way.......How are the twu drives going at those AMFA represented airlines????? Just what I thought...NIL!!!!!!!!

 

[twuer]

twuer......and what are you doing to help the cause?? Sitting on your A$$ eating popcorn and drinking those free sodas down at the hall? The AMFA folks you try so hard to discredit are the ones that will inevitably bring back the "RESPECT" our profession once had. The ole' AMFA boys have more backbone than any twu wannabe I've ever met. I will always be embarassed to be associated with the twu!!! The one thing you twu wannabes got right so far is the mention of the next drive if this one doesn't fall through. If the NMB is on any kind of level playing field, WE WILL HAVE OUR ELECTION and the twu WILL BE REPLACED!!!!!!!

Keep the Faith......VOTE AMFA!!!!!!!!

By the way.......How are the twu drives going at those AMFA represented airlines????? Just what I thought...NIL!!!!!!!!

Now Bus, just what exactly are you amfa supporters doing?? You are picketing the NMB for something that you are mad at because things aren't ging the amfa way. The TWU did nothing out of the ordinary that amfa has not done. I guess you aren't in the loop as far as who and what were on the lists. . . .lists from both sides!!!

You know it's funny, but it seems that amfa included folks when it benefitted them but when the TWU DOES THE SAME THING!!!! and it doesn't benefit them, they cry (and picket the NMB) about it!!! How does that work????? Oh yeah, it must be that hypocritical oath you guys must take to get your memberships at amfa.





Oh and Bus, I guess I'm not up to date on my computer lingo. . . what is NIL??

And as far as TWU drives at other airlines. . .
WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!!

 

[Steve Connell]

Steve Connell, I'm shocked that you are going under your real name on this site! Now being bi-polar is making more sense to me. On Dave's site, wwwair-mechanic.com you have been thrown off so many times, as SERIGO, I'M HACKSAW, WORD, THE ADMINISITRATOR, etc.etc.etc. is this your last resort? Or do they just have different standards? We are only members of TWU because we have to be, (that will change). A fair election was requested by over 50%. That is being approved by the NMB as we speak, (or write). The eligible people were requested by the NMB from AA and TWU. Both "padded" the numbers and were caught defrauding the NMB. The AMFA supporters exposed the fraud and are now being accused as "crybabies" for doing so. Yes the TWU must represent us (AMFA supporters) as long as we pay dues. BUMMER DUDE! If they don't, they (TWU) can be sued. We are paying for a service, and if we aren't getting it, Guess what? YOU PAY!!! Weather you guys like it or not, we are still members and you must DEFEND US! Like Bob Owens said we are paying 2 hours pay. Recall of officers, read the AMFA constitution. Only people like you Steve that are TWU "diehards" stay in any position that TWU puts you in against the popular vote. What was it, 68% of the Bay 8 at MCI wanted you and Cecil out, and the E-Board over-rode the vote? Won't happen with AMFA. flyguy

Actually flyguy, that is your real name right?, I have no idea, nor really care who you think I am, who I post under and such. The simple fact that I do not support AMFA is what really bites you all, had I been a "kool-aid" drinker then I would have been welcomed with open arms, NO THANKS.

So you are bipolar?, or were you insinuating I was? Whatever the case I like your style, or lack there of.

We are only members of TWU because we have to be

Now here lies a statement that took a lot of combined braincells to produce. You must be extremely worn out after that composure. A fair election was proposed by how many? Has that been satisfied by the NMB already or just you estimating?

Only people like you Steve that are TWU "diehards" stay in any position that TWU puts you in against the popular vote. What was it, 68% of the Bay 8 at MCI wanted you and Cecil out, and the E-Board over-rode the vote?

Fact is I was simply an alternate steward. I think maybe I filled in maybe twice in a year or so. The day Cecil asked me to resign because the AMFA supporters did not like me anymore was devasting to me. I could not eat for weeks, I could not face my children without breaking up crying like a babe. I was a broken man, AMFA won a big day that day. And your statements of the local making a postition for me was also your own fabrication. I was approached months prior to serve on the Communications Committee, and accepted. The appointment had nothing to do with AMFA getting me ousted as alternate. I do understand you wanting it to be that way so you can go pat each other on the back and all, that's OK, you still can. I do not really care.

The E-Board went according to the by-laws and had they not they would have had to explain that action also. They also questioned the International to ensure they had interpretted the by-law properly, it is only the AMFA supporters that are upset and yelling foul, wonder why? You guys never seem to win in courts or negotiations, I suppose having a steward remove his alternate was a big day for you, congrats.

Let's see, what else was there that you know so much about me flyguy, was it my going into management and how I returned to the floor or was it my being a law enforcement officer and what was it bright boy, did I get fired there?

Let's do this, or are you of no backbone? Why not come see me and ask me face to face the questions you seem to have. I have no bitterness towards you, I would like to give the facts if you are going to put items on the board about me. By your posts I believe I know you anyway, and if my assumptions are correct, we will have no meeting. You are to intimidated, and for why I do not know. I'm sure you'll post how unafraid you are, how you don't want to waste your time and all, that is to expected, it's the AMFA way. In order to face what bothers you confrontation is the answer, let it go brother, step up and be a man.

Ever notice how most of the AMFA supporters and organizers are of the same mold? And I do not mean that in a good way so stop patting each other.

BTW, wasn't it just a few months ago that Hackett and you all were walking me out the door? Hey guess what, I'm still here and your boy isn't, another AMFA brainstorm.

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

TEST QUESTION: Which of the following individuals is shown in the photo below?

A. KEVIN GORREMANS(CIO)

B. STEVE CONNELL

C. JIM CANTRELL

D. CHRIS SCHISSLER

E. DOUG HOUSLEY

F. RICK MULLINS(TWUer)

G. ALL OF THE ABOVE

 

[local 12 proud]

sonny"THE RAT" hall

 

[Steve Connell]

Looks like one of your offspring princess. Say, how's that massage business panning out?

 

[Bob Owens]

How does that statement represent the TWU sentiment towards it's members Bob? When you state member Bob, do you mean the loyal TWU members Bob, or the AMFA supporters that are still in the TWU Bob?

By your remark you lead one to think that the TWU should assist the AMFA drive, am I reading you correctly Bob? Your payment of 2 hours pay/month does NOT make you a union man Bob.

Give me another reason, say for instance the recall of officers process Bob, show me where AMFA prevails there will you please, then I'll show you my take on it Bob.

Seems you organizers are again grasping at any and all tactics to sway the floor's opinion of you and your drive, a shame Bob.

Steve,
I certianly do not need a management reject to tell me what being a good union man is.

Is the TWU International "Loyal" to the members?

The union is supposed to serve the members, not the other way around.

So, you are admitting that if AMFA was to recieve a list that it would help the AMFA drive. If the TWU was doing a good job then they wouldnt have to worry now would they?

Steve, are you a mechanic?

The AMFA is a union that is committed to elevating the profession. Its their primary mission. The TWU claims that their primary mission is to "save" jobs. Roughly translated that means "preserve the dues flow". The "saving jobs" line is their excuse for the most recent round of concessions, what about the concessions over the last twenty years, a period where overall, job growth was constant?

Over the last twenty years this union has led the way in the destruction of what used to be a great profession. This is undeniable.

The fact is that with the TWU we do not control the process. The process is in the hands of the International, whom we not only can not recall but do not elect.

Even if we did choose our leaders, this unions makeup is so fractured and isolated that a single clear objective as a union is impossible to establish. Promoting the value of our A&P may be good for us, but probably is not seen as important to fleet service clerks and even less so to transit workers, school bus drivers and casino workers. Tell me Steve, how many letters and how much lobbying have YOU done for Flight Attendannt certification? They are even in the same industry yet how often has it been discussed at your union meetings?

The average TWU member earns $15 per hour. How much support can we expect from these workers in our effort to raise our pay and benifitsd when we already make double what they do?

The TWU has attacked the profession and supported measures that devalue, by means of reducing demand for, A&P mechanics. They transferred work away from us and created a permanantly lower paid subclass of mechanics. The creation of this subclass has damaged the profession across the industry, it forced other carriers like UAL and NWA, who had no such subclass in place, to contract out work in order to compete with AA. The fact is that the TWU/AA alliance created this subclass and put it in place while the entire industry was expanding and its presence insured that AA would have an ever increasing competative edge over other carriers. Despite this cost advantage the TWU still brokered and put into effect massive concessions on all of its workers. I believe they did so in an effort to drive other airlines out of business and swell the ranks of TWU members. The TWU was and is willing to lower living standards and eliminate benifits (which they will gladly, and shamelessly then try to sell to the members) in order to grow the union. For the TWU, the TWU comes before the members. Any group, especially A&P mechanics is expendable if it means they could get more members.

Because the TWU is made up of so many different groups with diverse interests, skill levels and payrates the likelyhood of any kind of unified action is minimal. Have you ever seen the TWU International orchastrate a coordinated effective action involving workers from several different locals from different industries? I've been a TWU member for nearly twenty years and I havent. Even when other TWU local in the same city-New York, are engaged in action the International does not encourage inter-local supportive action. I saw this when the Transit workers went on strike and when school bus drivers went on strike. Other locals only found out about it when they saw it on TV.

There are a lot of good people out there trying to make good locals, but their effectiveness at improving the conditions of their members are stifled by the corrupt, inefficient, ineffective International, and of all the divisions out there, of all the members out there, none are more under the thumb of the International than workers at AA. Thats because since we have so many Locals, and none of the locals are party to the contract, the contract belongs to the International. Local representatives are only witnesses to the contract. This point has been made through several court cases by the International. It was made when the Presidents council sued over the creation of seperate locals, when the Boston Local sued over the International seperating Title II and letting them go to Local 562, and even more recently when Local 501 challenged the Kasher decision to strip TWA workers of their seniority.

In all those cases the TWU International maintained that under our Constitution and our contract that those who were elected by the members (local leaders) were subordinate to those who were not elected by the members (International officers) and that Local leaders had no right to challenge the deciosions of the International.

This has great significance, because even if every single AA local demanded Little and Halls resignation due to the concessions they put in place, they would have no power to do so. All the AA votes combined are still a minority of the TWU and our Constitution does not give the members, or their elected representatives that right. So Sonny and Little can screw us all they want and even if every AA member, every local, called for their resignation they could simply ignore us.

 

[Bob Owens]

Looks like one of your offspring princess. Say, how's that massage business panning out?

Is there something wrong with being a masseuse?

A while back my wife got me a gift certificate to a local massage clinic.
$50 per 30 minutes.
Worth every penny!
Thats more than any TWU member makes!

Go for it Princess! The best employer you can ever have is yourself!

 

[Hackman]

Actually flyguy, that is your real name right?, I have no idea, nor really care who you think I am, who I post under and such. The simple fact that I do not support AMFA is what really bites you all, had I been a "kool-aid" drinker then I would have been welcomed with open arms, NO THANKS.

So you are bipolar?, or were you insinuating I was? Whatever the case I like your style, or lack there of.
Now here lies a statement that took a lot of combined braincells to produce. You must be extremely worn out after that composure. A fair election was proposed by how many? Has that been satisfied by the NMB already or just you estimating?


Fact is I was simply an alternate steward. I think maybe I filled in maybe twice in a year or so. The day Cecil asked me to resign because the AMFA supporters did not like me anymore was devasting to me. I could not eat for weeks, I could not face my children without breaking up crying like a babe. I was a broken man, AMFA won a big day that day. And your statements of the local making a postition for me was also your own fabrication. I was approached months prior to serve on the Communications Committee, and accepted. The appointment had nothing to do with AMFA getting me ousted as alternate. I do understand you wanting it to be that way so you can go pat each other on the back and all, that's OK, you still can. I do not really care.

The E-Board went according to the by-laws and had they not they would have had to explain that action also. They also questioned the International to ensure they had interpretted the by-law properly, it is only the AMFA supporters that are upset and yelling foul, wonder why? You guys never seem to win in courts or negotiations, I suppose having a steward remove his alternate was a big day for you, congrats.

Let's see, what else was there that you know so much about me flyguy, was it my going into management and how I returned to the floor or was it my being a law enforcement officer and what was it bright boy, did I get fired there?

Let's do this, or are you of no backbone? Why not come see me and ask me face to face the questions you seem to have. I have no bitterness towards you, I would like to give the facts if you are going to put items on the board about me. By your posts I believe I know you anyway, and if my assumptions are correct, we will have no meeting. You are to intimidated, and for why I do not know. I'm sure you'll post how unafraid you are, how you don't want to waste your time and all, that is to expected, it's the AMFA way. In order to face what bothers you confrontation is the answer, let it go brother, step up and be a man.

Ever notice how most of the AMFA supporters and organizers are of the same mold? And I do not mean that in a good way so stop patting each other.

BTW, wasn't it just a few months ago that Hackett and you all were walking me out the door? Hey guess what, I'm still here and your boy isn't, another AMFA brainstorm.

Actually earl stevie, we were talking about how an AMFA supporter would be walked out the door for going through someones toolbox without their permission. The twu still has the company backing, or I meant to say, the twu is on its back most of the time. Seems your twu world collapsed for awhile earl, but they brought you back into the fold to save the day. Make sure you enjoy those days, I fear that time is short for you and your twu.

For being an old non-licensed mechanic, you've done well for yourself. You and your ex-iam ilk have willingly swallowed concession after concession. Almost rode the TWA train into oblivion, but thanks to Uncle Don, your still alive here at Arrogant Airlines. Thanks also to the twu "saving jobs", as they like to say. Only one thing earl, there is most likely concessions and layoffs coming up again very soon. Its that continuous money drain thingy. We are the only airline with three bases and all half full. Will you make it back into the management ranks when they hand you your "twu saves jobs" pink slip? I think you would look good as a grey haired coffee go-fer in the office, you've been there before. Easy on the sugar, earl.

So how did AMFA get you ousted as shop stewly? They don't have any support in MCI do they? I assume that like yourself, everyone was real "tore up" about losing you as a pillar of twu support, how do they function without you? Huge loss there. Congrats as the new leader of the Communications Committee, I'm sure you'll be happily announcing the upcoming election soon. You know, the one the twu couldn't stop.

I also did not know you were a policeman earl. You are a very well rounded old man. I have several officers in my extended family, but none of them are bi-polar. Did they let you carry a gun with live rounds earl? I'll have to ask my cousin at the State Patrol if they have any bi-polar officers with guns. I've never heard of any. Thats not why your in aviation now is it? We have several twu officers that could be bi-polar, and they treat it with alcohol. I don't think the booze helps them much though.

Ahhh, and now we get to the real earl steve..... confrontations. I would figure with your police training, you would know to avoid confrontations. You just never know what you will come up against. I know this rule 32 thing is really putting a damper on your game earl. However, you might be immune to the rule being in the twu. The twu seems to get away with alot more than the average AMFA supporter. I have heard that its a violation to bring in food at MCI if your wearing an AMFA shirt. However if your a twu believer, its ok. You can even rifle through someones toolbox being in the twu and keep right on going like nothing ever happened. However, I think that it may be changing soon with the twu losing another airline to AMFA.

Good luck to you earl with your soon to be renewed management career as a level one coffee go-fer.


THE twu IS OUT THE DOOR IN 04!!!!

 

[Stop the Bus..I Want Off!!]

Now Bus, just what exactly are you amfa supporters doing?? You are picketing the NMB for something that you are mad at because things aren't ging the amfa way. The TWU did nothing out of the ordinary that amfa has not done. I guess you aren't in the loop as far as who and what were on the lists. . . .lists from both sides!!!

You know it's funny, but it seems that amfa included folks when it benefitted them but when the TWU DOES THE SAME THING!!!! and it doesn't benefit them, they cry (and picket the NMB) about it!!! How does that work????? Oh yeah, it must be that hypocritical oath you guys must take to get your memberships at amfa.





Oh and Bus, I guess I'm not up to date on my computer lingo. . . what is NIL??

And as far as TWU drives at other airlines. . .
WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!!

Now twuer, I've seen the elegibility lists that were submitted by the company and the twu. I'm in constant communication with some of the people responsible for making contact with the people on the lists. Everyone seems to know what's going on except for a handfull of twu wannabes. Tell me why the mechanics craft and class number is highly inflated from the one submitted when we bought TWA??

Oh and twuer, I'm not up on my computer lingo either. What is "ging"?

While your at it, pick up Websters dictionary and look up "Nil".

The "W" in twu.......Wannabe,Weak,Whore,Worthless and Wrong. You've got the dictionary out, look 'em up. If you think anyone else in the industry would want the twu, you need to put the crack pipe down!!

Keep the Faith.......VOTE AMFA!!!!!!!!!!

 

[flyguy767]

Yes Steve, "flyguy" is my real name. Just one of the drawbacks of having your Mother still on pain killers when asked "What name have you given him"? Hell, could be worse, Frank Zappa's wife brought her own medication to the hospital and ended up naming her kids "Moon-unit" and "Dweeble".

 

[twuer]

Now twuer, I've seen the elegibility lists that were submitted by the company and the twu. I'm in constant communication with some of the people responsible for making contact with the people on the lists. Everyone seems to know what's going on except for a handfull of twu wannabes. Tell me why the mechanics craft and class number is highly inflated from the one submitted when we bought TWA??

Oh and twuer, I'm not up on my computer lingo either. What is "ging"?

While your at it, pick up Websters dictionary and look up "Nil".

The "W" in twu.......Wannabe,Weak,Whore,Worthless and Wrong. You've got the dictionary out, look 'em up. If you think anyone else in the industry would want the twu, you need to put the crack pipe down!!

Keep the Faith.......VOTE AMFA!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Bus, no need to go into a rant! Sorry, a type-o on my part. I usually catch those. I meant going not ging. You don't normally see the word "nil" used and when you put it in caps I thought it was like LMAO or BRB. Again, my mistake.


I think one (out of many) of the mistakes that you and amfa have made is that you did not think or know to add the recalls and those the NMB considers craft and class. That is completely the fault of amfa. You guys have been so busy telling (or should I say dictating to) the NMB what to do and how to do their jobs, that somewhere along the way you dropped the ball!! And now you want to come back and blame the TWU for your mistakes! That's typical and we expected it. When Delle argued that cleaners etc should be included to benefit them (amfa) there was no crying about that then. I have said many times and will continue to say that amfa's behavior in this whole thing (and with other issues) has been hypocritical. Let's define that shall we................

hy·po·crit·i·cal [ hìppə kríttik’l ]

adjective

falsely claiming high principles: showing, originating from or of the nature of hypocrisy

hy·poc·ri·sy [ hi pókrəssee ] (plural hy·poc·ri·sies)

noun

1. feigned high principles: the false claim to or pretense of having admirable principles, beliefs, or feelings
It would be sheer hypocrisy for them to turn around and do what they criticize in others.




Sounds like amfa behavior to me!!!

 

[Stop the Bus..I Want Off!!]

Oh Bus, no need to go into a rant! Sorry, a type-o on my part. I usually catch those. I meant going not ging. You don't normally see the word "nil" used and when you put it in caps I thought it was like LMAO or BRB. Again, my mistake.


I think one (out of many) of the mistakes that you and amfa have made is that you did not think or know to add the recalls and those the NMB considers craft and class. That is completely the fault of amfa. You guys have been so busy telling (or should I say dictating to) the NMB what to do and how to do their jobs, that somewhere along the way you dropped the ball!! And now you want to come back and blame the TWU for your mistakes! That's typical and we expected it. When Delle argued that cleaners etc should be included to benefit them (amfa) there was no crying about that then. I have said many times and will continue to say that amfa's behavior in this whole thing (and with other issues) has been hypocritical. Let's define that shall we................

hy·po·crit·i·cal [ hìppə kríttik’l ]

adjective

falsely claiming high principles: showing, originating from or of the nature of hypocrisy

hy·poc·ri·sy [ hi pókrəssee ] (plural hy·poc·ri·sies)

noun

1. feigned high principles: the false claim to or pretense of having admirable principles, beliefs, or feelings
It would be sheer hypocrisy for them to turn around and do what they criticize in others.




Sounds like amfa behavior to me!!!

Looks like you thought wrong again. If you remember the TWA guys thought they had enough cards to file before AA bought them. What stopped the filling was the guys on recall. Things changed when we bought them and they became represented by the twu. My problem is not the handful of cleaners that were added to the list, but the retiree's, deceased, management, people who have quit, and names that were on the list multiple times. Don't forget, the AMFA turned in the cards. The company/union (no distinction implied) turned in the lists. It was very obvious it was a joint effort. Does it not bother you that the company will do just about anything to save it's lap-dog union?? I find it very disturbing!!

Hypocrisy?? I've got it now. It's like j little telling the membership we'll have a full revote where as every member can "PARTICIPATE" and then roll over and do the opposite. Crying over other companies outsourcing and then letting Zebco farm out 100% of their work while on the twu's watch. Now that I think about it, I have over 15 years of concessions and hypocrisy with the twu. Must be why I think their time is up. Even the AA FA's knew they had to get rid of the twu if they ever wanted to be represented. You whine all you want about the AMFA, but the truth is, the twu could not have done any more than the AMFA has done for its members. The debate would be if the twu would have gone as far or would have said , this is my favorite, "That's just the way things are done here brother".


Have a wonderful AMFA day. Our boys should be back from D.C. soon.
Keep the Faith......VOTE AMFA!!!!!!!