AMFA & NW resume talks after 360 day strike

[CSAR GYRENE]

:down: Why scabcar, did you not spend your life inflicting violence on others in your beloved corp? Is that not what your beloved shrub is doing in iraq right now? We all know white collar crime is different than blue. They use lawyers, judges and corrupt politicians to do their dirty work, oh and bumb asses like yourself. Look back at labor history before you run out of your many orifices. Use that 140 iq for something other than dribble. Yeah your a real A TEAMER!

Looked back at labor history..found that niether side had a monopoly on violence and extortion....and yes, I have inflicted considerable violence on the enemies of our nation when duty has called me to do so. But to compare the actions taken by our nations finest while in the performance of thier duties to thugs beating an unarmed man for trying to feed his children seems rather weak, wouldnt you agree?
By the way...what the hell is a "beloved shrub"?

 

[CSAR GYRENE]

Poor CSAR you just don't get it do you? YOU are a SCAB and to some degree a rapist also. The mechanics walked out on strike at NWA, not only to defend their standard of living, but to defend their profession from being destroyed. So what does dumbass CSAR and PTO do? They help not only NWA management lower wages and benefits for NWA aircraft mechanics, but also help lower wages and benefits for all aircraft mechanics elsewhere. All for a free hotel room and a box of chinese tools.

I think it's funny how CSAR and PTO try to justify their scabby ways and then cry when their tires get slashed or rocks get thrown at them. CSAR you need to talk to some D-Day veterans. They will not tell you getting shot at is exillerating.

So, for the record, I want to make sure this is VERY clear to ALL who read these posts, not just the diehards on both sides, but for say, a young high school student doing research on the rise and fall of organised labor in the USA: In the minds of true unionists, a combat vet contractor, or a laid off airline mechanic who crosses an imaginary line near a parking lot, is no less vile or worthy of hatred and vilification than Jeffry Dalmer, Bin Laden, or David Duke? Is the person who brutally rapes, tortures, and butchers a child REALLY not worse than some contractor who accepts a call to help bail out a bankrupt airline? Is that the impression you REALLY want to give to a high school economics class on the mentality of the good and honorable union man?

 

[groundcontrol]

Looked back at labor history..found that niether side had a monopoly on violence and extortion....and yes, I have inflicted considerable violence on the enemies of our nation when duty has called me to do so. But to compare the actions taken by our nations finest while in the performance of thier duties to thugs beating an unarmed man for trying to feed his children seems rather weak, wouldnt you agree?
By the way...what the hell is a "beloved shrub"?

"But to compare the actions taken by our nations finest while in the performance of thier duties" Bullshet, there is no difference between "our nations finest performance of duty" and my right to fight for my beliefs. YOU are the one that stepped into this war, don't like it GET OUT!

"thugs beating an unarmed man for trying to feed his children seems rather weak," This is equally bullshet! Whats the difference between a "man trying to feed his children" and a honorable striker wanting to do the same? IMO the striker has the right, the SCAB low life scum DOES NOT!

So, NO I DO NOT AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[local 12 proud]

But to compare the actions taken by our nations finest while in the performance of thier duties to thugs beating an unarmed man for trying to feed his children seems rather weak, wouldnt you agree?

CSAR you consistently like to compare military life to civilian, That being said there is a time and place for violence. Personally I don't attack unless provoked.

Did you SCABS not attack (steal) jobs from men/women who were trying to feed their children?

 

[CSAR GYRENE]

CSAR you consistently like to compare military life to civilian, That being said there is a time and place for violence. Personally I don't attack unless provoked.

Did you SCABS not attack (steal) jobs from men/women who were trying to feed their children?

Fair enough, and as I told kev, I can respect that viewpoint. One question though...can you name ONE child in this dispute who has ACTUALLY gone hungry due to my crossing a picket line? If a man lets his own children starve before he violates his union beliefs, than is that man not guilty of putting his own pride and beliefs above the physical well being of his children? Now I dont for a second believe that you, "Local" would be that indifferent to the sufferings of your children, but I do wonder if thier are others amongst your midste who really WOULD let thier children starve rather than be ostracised by thier fellow "brothers".
I am fully aware that at the start of the labor movement, in the first part of the last century, that was indeed the only options....company towns, robber barons, and such, they had the employees by the short ones, and it was indeed a matter of life or death to them. The stuggles you face today, however, are but pale shadows of the REAL life and death struggles faced by your predeccesors. You know this as well as I, probably even more so. To quote Dillon, "These times they are a'changin'" You feel as though your very livelyhood is threatened...well, so did candlemakers after Edison. If unions want to survive in to the next century, and re-capture some of thier lost glory and prestige, they must first look DEEP into their own way of doing things that are as equally contibutory to thier decline as the changes in economics that has wrought such change to American manufacturing and services, for better, or worse. You yourself have commented regarding serious shortcomings in modern organised labor. I would opine that with the exception of a few diehards here, most decent union guys, (and gals) realise that changes HAVE to be made. The problem is, you want to fight using the last wars tactics. Believe me, as a diehard military man, I am fully aware of how hard it is to adapt to change in warfighting. But change we must if we are to survive, as a work force, and as a nation. We fail to do so at our own peril.
Best wishes,
CG

 

[Necrophilias]

CSAR you consistently like to compare military life to civilian, That being said there is a time and place for violence. Personally I don't attack unless provoked.

Did you SCABS not attack (steal) jobs from men/women who were trying to feed their children?

As CSARSCAB has continued his search for self validation we see his lack of ownership of his actions. True, CSARSCAB has attacked union mechanics in his self seeking efforts to stay on payroll.

Oh how I laughed when CSARSCAB refered to himself as "our nation's finest". HA HA HA! He doesn't even have the metal to stay on the good side of a picket line.

Habitually speaking or writing of oneself is more than just a bit neurotic. War stories told often are most likely the product of someone who never was. Constantly seeking self validation is very insecure. SCABBING is a selfish, treacherous, cowardly and backstabbing act. CSARSCAB is guilty of all the above.

 

[Necrophilias]

Exactly, you don't really have NWA on the ropes.
That could quickly get classified as terrorism. Have fun with that. Sounds like they have good reason to. Do you really think you could run the company better?

For life? I guess there's a fine line between stubborn and and just plain wasteful with your life. It's somewhere between when the strike started and 'the rest of your life'.

I'm sure they are your biggest fan too.

Firstly I'm not one of the strikers so you're right in writing that I don't have NW "on the ropes".

Could I "run the company better"? There's a pretty good chance that most people could manage NW better than does it's current regime.

Walking the line for life if necessary is something that you and your likes will never understand. You are too busy helping tyrants cut wages from $37 per hr to $20 per hr. REAL SMART! LOL


"Biggest fan"? My dispute with NW began years ago. This dispute was born when NW "did me dirt" as frequent flyer. Since that time NW has lost even more business travelers, angered more employees and while executives increased their stock options. NICE JOB MANAGING THE AIRLINE.

 

[CSAR GYRENE]

As CSARSCAB has continued his search for self validation we see his lack of ownership of his actions. True, CSARSCAB has attacked union mechanics in his self seeking efforts to stay on payroll.

Oh how I laughed when CSARSCAB refered to himself as "our nation's finest". HA HA HA! He doesn't even have the metal to stay on the good side of a picket line.

Habitually speaking or writing of oneself is more than just a bit neurotic. War stories told often are most likely the product of someone who never was. Constantly seeking self validation is very insecure. SCABBING is a selfish, treacherous, cowardly and backstabbing act. CSARSCAB is guilty of all the above.

While I do appreciate the concern you have for my mental state of health, I must ask: Was theresomething SUBSANTIVE you wished to say regarding SPECIFICS of my comments, or are you just going to commit the pollitically incorrect crime of mocking the mentally impaired?

 

[Necrophilias]

While I do appreciate the concern you have for my mental state of health, I must ask: Was theresomething SUBSANTIVE you wished to say regarding SPECIFICS of my comments, or are you just going to commit the pollitically incorrect crime of mocking the mentally impaired?

Posting such revealing facts about you and your neurosis works just fine.

WHAT? You just posted a message with comparison to military life. YOU'RE SLIPPING A BIT!

Isn't it time for you pack up you tube of Superglue, duct tape, flashlight and cold quarter pounder so you can go perform your $20 per hour aircraft pencil whips?

 

[CSAR GYRENE]

"Cowardice"? You freakin' blowhard! REAL men don't have to continually draw comparisons to their military experience (real or fiction).

Brave men don't post or talk much about what they did in a combat zone. You on the otherhand are your own greatest admirer.

Standing for a union cause is something you couldn't possibly understand hence your BOOGER EATING SCAB EXISTANCE.

I approve of violence against SCABS but haven't been part of it. The fact that your SELFISH, BRAINWASHED, MENTALLY CHALLENGED SCAB PALS got worked over is funny stuff.

Perhaps in your chartnah as a SEWER RAT you will blend much better.

If you approve, why HAVENT you been a part of it? Do you not believe in your cause strong enough to risk imprisonment? Are you in fact not willing to die for your beliefs. Or are you merely paying lipservice, and in fact have only enough courage to SAY you support such action, but not enough to DO such action?
---wait a minute...Did you actually say "booger eating"? OH MY GAWD THAT IS SO FITH GRADE!

 

[CSAR GYRENE]

Posting such revealing facts about you and your neurosis works just fine.

WHAT? You just posted a message with comparison to military life. YOU'RE SLIPPING A BIT!

Isn't it time for you pack up you tube of Superglue, duct tape, flashlight and cold quarter pounder so you can go perform your $20 per hour aircraft pencil whips?

so, are you unwilling, or merely unable, to comment reasonably and articulately, on the specifics of my post?
Of course the use of the phrase "booger eating" did not help your cause much. (I'm sorry, but the fact that you used such a goofball little kid phrase just kills me...I'm pretty sure you were just being silly, but sometimes ya never can tell....)

 

[Necrophilias]

If you approve, why HAVENT you been a part of it? Do you not believe in your cause strong enough to risk imprisonment? Are you in fact not willing to die for your beliefs. Or are you merely paying lipservice, and in fact have only enough courage to SAY you support such action, but not enough to DO such action?
---wait a minute...Did you actually say "booger eating"? OH MY GAWD THAT IS SO FITH GRADE!

Where SCABS are referenced "BOOGER EATING" is most appropriate.

I have walked the picket line with my neighbor. The SCAB who I confronted at a resturant didn't want any of me. He was wearing a white colored NWA MAC badge. This is one of my regular resturants and it is now again "SCAB FREE".

Speaking of "lipservice", you are the worst "BLOWHARD" to ever grace (or disgrace) an airline message board.

 

[Necrophilias]

Well Necrophilias, it didn't take long for your comments to draw out the SCAB faithful.
CSAR and the dc9fanatic. Peas in a pod. I will say that the honor is on the outside gentlemen. Have you signed your IAM card yet CSAR? I'm sure they've been around. When you are covered under an IAM agreement then you will have a reason to despise unions. Enjoy your little honeymoon period at nwa. The management of this company is not done with you yet. When the moral dips further on the inside and then Dougie realizes that $1.4B isn't quite enough to give him profitability, he'll be back.
The title of the thread is resumption of the talks. If by some chance a vote comes out, I will vote no if it includes keeping replacement SCABs on the property. I only know a few mechanics that would not use this as their first litmus test of a potential agreement.

The SCABS have a new found sensitivity. It would seem that the ongoing strike has disturbed them somewhat.

This morning I've spent too much time dueling with CSARSCAB. This will have me working through lunch. LOL

As for CSARSCAB, the guy hasn't even had time to dress his GI Joe Dolls this morning. He is still sitting at his refurbished computer, wearing his pink pajamas (complete with war medals purchased online) and writing about himself. WHAT A LIFE!

 

[groundcontrol]

As for CSARSCAB, the guy hasn't even had time to dress his GI Joe Dolls this morning. He is still sitting at his refurbished computer, wearing his pink pajamas (complete with war medals purchased online) and writing about himself. WHAT A LIFE!

Yea...
thats about how I picture him also....
I figured him for a section 8 alooooooong time ago.

 

[Don Smith]

Fair enough, and as I told kev, I can respect that viewpoint. One question though...can you name ONE child in this dispute who has ACTUALLY gone hungry due to my crossing a picket line?

Not specifically "gone hungry", but I do know of families that are now separated by long distances because of the non-resolution of the strike. Those children are "hungry" for their fathers. We're not eating steak every night but many of weren't before the strike. Our standard of livings have to be adjusted until our salaries recover to the point where they were. YOU have circumvented the honorable collective bargaining process between employees and employers. You have sided with the Pinkertons and their robber barons in this fight. If you claim to be "your own man" I submit that you ARE NOT....YOU ARE A PUPPET!