Amfa #1!

[PDiddyQuill]

Just a personal reflection...

#1 in representational disputes.
#1 in dividing the workforce to the benefit of management.
#1 in intimidation.
#1 in exploiting problems with management for their own personal gain.
#1 in being sued by their own members.
#1 in the worst contract language (ACA).
#1 in the worst pay at a major airline (ASA).
#1 in maintaining their status as the poorest union in the industry.
#1 in the smallest strike fund. $0.00.
#1 in the smallest amount of political pull.
#1 in percentage of contracts without a pension plan.
#1 in highest dues. $61.00 at Local 14.
#1 in the worst union leadership training program.
#1 in the inability to cooperate with other unions to benefit their members.
#1 in local lodge meeting commuting distance.
#1 in denying seniority rights.
#1 in members who have been asked to pay for their own arbitration.
#1 in unenforceable ironclad contract language.
#1 in being the union most hated by cleaners.
#1 in lost law suits.
and the list goes on. AMFA is leading the industry alright.

 

[Calvin]

So don't hold out, how do you really feel?

 

[TWU informer]

All that up against TWU's issue they always lead the industry in...

...Industry Leading Pay/Benefit Concessions

 

[Bob Owens]

Look at what the TWU is #1 at;

 

[Superside]

Just a personal reflection...

#1 in representational disputes.
#1 in dividing the workforce to the benefit of management.
#1 in intimidation.
#1 in exploiting problems with management for their own personal gain.
#1 in being sued by their own members.
#1 in the worst contract language (ACA).
#1 in the worst pay at a major airline (ASA).
#1 in maintaining their status as the poorest union in the industry.
#1 in the smallest strike fund. $0.00.
#1 in the smallest amount of political pull.
#1 in percentage of contracts without a pension plan.
#1 in highest dues. $61.00 at Local 14.
#1 in the worst union leadership training program.
#1 in the inability to cooperate with other unions to benefit their members.
#1 in local lodge meeting commuting distance.
#1 in denying seniority rights.
#1 in members who have been asked to pay for their own arbitration.
#1 in unenforceable ironclad contract language.
#1 in being the union most hated by cleaners.
#1 in lost law suits.
and the list goes on. AMFA is leading the industry alright.

Just a personal reflection...

#1 in representational disputes.
Check the NMB website, http://www.nmb.gov you’ll see you are incorrect.
#1 in dividing the workforce to the benefit of management.
Wrong! The TWU divided the Line, Maintenance, Fleet Service…They created the
division and now they blame AMFA.
#1 in intimidation.
Wrong again, It is the TWU whom are Intimidating the members, I have the proof in my driveway.
#1 in exploiting problems with management for their own personal gain.
Exploitation? The TWU set themselves up for this grassroots movement. What is
so Exploitive about it? It’s not for personal gain. It’s for the “Craft and Classâ€
read, Profession!
#1 in being sued by their own members.
You Better do a search on this charge, use Google or Yahoo. Check out the suits you find involving TWU and AMFA. You are in for another surprise.
#1 in the worst contract language (ACA).
Haven’t read their contract yet … can’t comment on it. Perhaps you can post a link and we can all have a read.
#1 in the worst pay at a major airline (ASA).
OH yes, that’s where TWU filed for an election and received 14 votes out 39 eligible. 30 NMB no 45 May 2003. I was unaware Atlantic Southeast Airlines was a Major.

#1 in maintaining their status as the poorest union in the industry.
Who is the poorest, as you put it, if One Union (TWU) squanders dues money on 300K a year for cars, and 800k+ year for a fancy 2nd floor crib at 53 and Broadway in NY? OR?! The Union that spends the dues collected, on the issues. You know! Mechanics and Related Issues?!
#1 in the smallest strike fund. $0.00.
SO HOW BIG IS THE TWU STRIKE FUND? Don’t forget the “no strike no lockout†clause in our contract. Now ask your question again only this time ask SONNY HALL about your strike fund. Ask Hall or Little or Yingst if any of the 9+ million in assets are set aside for “Strike funds�
#1 in the smallest amount of political pull.
Congressmen talk about this quite often. 10 hand written letters or emails on the same subject get more attention than 2000 photocopies of a Union Letter. Membership Shoe leather works well also.
#1 in percentage of contracts without a pension plan.
Where did you get this from? Give us a link on this one also.
#1 in highest dues. $61.00 at Local 14.
Which airline would that be? Highest dues has to mean they are getting more per hr RIGHT? 2 hrs pay a month would mean $30.50 hr base pay?
#1 in the worst union leadership training program.
Training as apposed to Brainwashing, for Brainwashing is the preferred TWU style.
#1 in the inability to cooperate with other unions to benefit their members.
AMFA assists other unions by not working “struck workâ€. Can the TWU make the same claim.
#1 in local lodge meeting commuting distance.
Lodge would be I.A.M. And I believe that there are members of the TWU 514 located in Houston,TX.
#1 in denying seniority rights.
Seniority rights like Tail Ending the TWA guys Seniority like the TWU/IAM/Arbitrated decision? How were seniority rights under AMFA
denied? Proof Please!
#1 in members who have been asked to pay for their own arbitration.
The only members that would of had to pay for their own arbitration would be 2. One of which was dismissed for failing a breathalyzer at NWA. The case was evaluated and there was no merit. This is one of the few reasons you would have to pay for your own arbitration.

#1 in unenforceable ironclad contract language.
Try enforcing this one: “It is understood that nothing in this agreement shall maintain the present volume of work†TWU/AA Contract. How’s that for Ironclad?
#1 in being the union most hated by cleaners.
#1 in lost law suits.
List the Law suits, I’ll I bet can raise ‘ya and see ‘ya!!!

and the list goes on. AMFA is leading the industry alright.
Diddy, Don’t stop now your on to a good thing! Please go on and on and on……

 

[TonyB]

Hey Drippy, you're just as bad as your mentor CIO!!!

 

[James T. Kirk]

THE NUMBER ONE UNION BUSTER amfruad. :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down:

 

[TWU informer]

The Number One Fear Monger - James T Kirk

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

THE NUMBER ONE UNION BUSTER amfruad. :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down:

There is no union at AA for AMTs. The twu is NOT a union! They are a dues sucking, nonperforming group of appointed individuals that care nothing about my craft and class.

 

[Bob Owens]

THE NUMBER ONE UNION BUSTER amfruad. :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down:

What happens when a union is busted? Do all the jobs dissapear? Or do all the workers take massive pay cuts and lose most of their benifits? Doesnt the company pay whatever they want or as low as the market will bear when they bust a union?

Well what happened at AA? Didnt the company get the $660 million in savings they wanted? Didnt we take massive wage and benifit cuts? Doesnt the company do as they please?

The fact is this union was for all intensive purposes BUSTED. The only difference is we still pay dues. Maybe thats because this is a company union. After all this union is on the company payroll!

We need a real union, and with AMFA we will finally get one.

 

[Seguro]

Bob Owens

What happens when a union is busted? Do all the jobs dissapear?

I think you're right Bob...well at least at Alaskan Air, NWA, and UAL I know of..good point

 

[j7915]

There is no union at AA for AMTs. The twu is NOT a union! They are a dues sucking, nonperforming group of appointed individuals that care nothing about my craft and class.

Hey Ken same old question, you accuse the TWU of being after dues. Are you implying that AMFA will either not bother collecting dues or maybe get along on one hour per months? Are you sure that the MAG group and Delle are doing this for the greater good of the amts?

I suspect you would be the first one to scrutenize your local's dues receipts to ensure that all the money is promptly extorted.

 

[j7915]

Bob Owens

I think you're right Bob...well at least at Alaskan Air, NWA, and UAL I know of..good point

Bob are you sure you work at a line station? If AA's 15-20% of the market were withdrawn the folks at UAL and UA etc, would probably provide you with a complimentary "going out of business" pizza. That is about the extra load they need to eliminate lower cost tickets.

You do remember when UAL went on strike years ago? It did not stop airline traffic, but made one great year for AA. If UAL had never returned to operation, after 6 months no one would have missed them.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Hey Ken same old question, you accuse the TWU of being after dues. Are you implying that AMFA will either not bother collecting dues or maybe get along on one hour per months? Are you sure that the MAG group and Delle are doing this for the greater good of the amts?

I suspect you would be the first one to scrutenize your local's dues receipts to ensure that all the money is promptly extorted.

j7915, like the song says, "Money makes the world go around." Yes, dues will enable AMFA tp PROTECT the membership because they will listen to the membership. If they don't we take our dues to another organization. The difference between AMFA and the twu is that the dues AMFA collects if used FOR the membership and the dues the twu takes in is used AGAINST the membership.
And I will not have to scrutinize the local's dues receipts when AMFA gets in because the membership votes on how dues are to be used.