Alpa Negotiation Update

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The ALPA NC and the Company continue to meet in Pittsburgh and there are three issues remaining before there is a TA: the 90-seat RJ (EMB-190/195 & CRJ-900), Indemnification, & Equity issues.

The parties are close to a TA and negotiations will continue tonight.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
As much as I have disagreed with ALPA in the past, the notion of a 95 - 100 seat aircraft in Express hands is rather distressing. F100s, 732s, and DC9s were all mainline craft up to a couple years ago.

Perhaps a mainline payscale for the 190s or an allowance for MDA to fly them?
 
ITRADE said:
As much as I have disagreed with ALPA in the past, the notion of a 95 - 100 seat aircraft in Express hands is rather distressing. F100s, 732s, and DC9s were all mainline craft up to a couple years ago.

Perhaps a mainline payscale for the 190s or an allowance for MDA to fly them?
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A mainline payscale for the 190's defeats company's the purpose. However, I agree it is distressing.
 
Are Jet Blue's pay rates for their EMB 190s known? I'm sure that is what is being offered...
 
In a report released yesterday, Baker said that three-year seniority rates for JetBlue 190 captains will be $74 per hour, or $80 when adjusted for overtime. A 12-year captain on a JetBlue 190 will earn $96 including overtime, representing "a 33%" cost-per-seat advantage versus Southwest's 137-seat aircraft when adjusted for planned pilot pay increases at Southwest.

"Whereas airline pilots typically get paid more as aircraft size increases, JetBlue has established its 100-seat pay scale below that of certain 70-seat operators, an obvious competitive disadvantage for the Regional airline sector, at least initially," Baker stated.
 
With the cuts currently on the table for pilots at US Airways, the topped-out 737/A320 captains probably will be making about $125-130 per hour -- comparable on a per-seat basis to jetBlue's EMB-190 rate including overtime for hours over 70. If the pilots give in on the EMB-190/CRJ-900 flying, you can bet that the 150-plane mainline fleet will happen pretty quickly.
 
A some point the Pilots at US will have to stand up for the pilot profession at large. If they (US pilots) let the 190 fly at express wages then the whole Industry is turned upside down! By all definitions this is a mainline aircraft!!!!

The pilots or any other work group should not have to subsidize RJ operations at US. This is exactly the strategy of management. Let labor pay for management mistakes.

JUST SAY NO! :down: :down:
 
unit4clt said:
A some point the Pilots at US will have to stand up for the pilot profession at large. If they (US pilots) let the 190 fly at express wages then the whole Industry is turned upside down! By all definitions this is a mainline aircraft!!!!

The pilots or any other work group should not have to subsidize RJ operations at US. This is exactly the strategy of management. Let labor pay for management mistakes.

JUST SAY NO! :down: :down:
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While I agree with the point, how can you fault a guy for agreeing to a rate equal to or higher than that offered by a profitable company that should be paying considerably more. the lowering of the bar ain't the fault of the U ALPA guys, it's the fault of the kool aid drinkers. The net result will be industry wide low wages and worthless stock options for the Neeleman a$$ kissers.
 

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